[b]I am not a Bungie employee, merely a fan who is interested in the lore.[/b] I strongly believe that Oryx is both Darkness and Hive, but in a different way than Crota. Crota was a creation of Oryx the same way the Hive were a creation of the Five Hive Gods (Oryx, Eir, Ur, Xol, and Yul). While he and his siblings ([url=http://i.imgur.com/BKKtVtx.png]three of which I believe can be seen here[/url]) were made with Darkness, they are Hive. Oryx is not just a Hive. Oryx is what I call a "true" Hive. He is the original and all other Hive are made in his form, to an extent (as seen above). Oryx is a member of the Darkness and the Hive are based off him, giving reason to why they have a similar appearance to him yet he still having very unique traits (such as wings and the ability to control living creatures). Now, something that's interesting about this is that there are still four other Hive "gods" to consider. Does that mean there are different variants of Hive that are created by each of the Five? Oryx's direct Hive disciples are the Blood of Oryx, but I'd argue that all the Hive we've seen are of his design. It may even be possible that the other four have different species entirely, or something much different in nature. Perhaps Oryx commands the armies while the others do other things. The thing this begs an answer to most is if the Hive gods are truly the Darkness or just another rung on the ladder below the top. [url=http://i.imgur.com/jsYs959.jpg]Oryx's dreadnought[/url] is not the same as [url=http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SePcw4hX--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18ixae8746vpsjpg.jpg]the Onyx Pyramids of old[/url], unless the look has changed. No, I think Oryx and the other four might just be a branch of the Darkness that controls the Hive and Taken. [url=http://i.imgur.com/pNjwh6o.png]The Darkness is coming, and Oryx is just the beginning.[/url] Thoughts? Edit: [b]This is an old thread. I'll probably make an updated one that focuses on new information some time soon.[/b]