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Dude a GG shot is literally a piece of a star, he's dead. A Nova Bomb blast contains the power of a collapsing star he is dead. A Sunsinger can literally bring himself back from the dead, they are transcending reality and shrug off physical harm. Master Chief is dead.
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  • But you forgot the most important thing: armor lock. It is literally impenetrable. No matter how many Nova Bombs you throw at him, he is still getting out of that situation.

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  • Edited by Astro4545: 8/9/2015 10:31:59 PM
    Actually it isn't, just nearly so. Now Ward of Dawn on the other hand is impenetrable.

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  • Ward of Dawn impenetrable? > 2 GG shots > Nova Bomb > Hammer of Sol > Fist of Havoc

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  • You're using game mechanics, I'm talking lore.

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  • Edited by IS0M0RPHIC: 8/9/2015 7:21:54 AM
    If all of these things you say are true (which they aren't) then every time a guardian uses a super an entire planet would be destroyed Golden gun is just a fancy plasma pistol Nova bomb is a glorified wraith shot Radiance doesn't allow the wielder to shrug off harm in any way....

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  • Actually, if you read the Grimoire cards (aka lore), what he said was true, for the most part. Nova Bomb: "Channel the Traveler's Light into a bolt of energy with the power of a collapsing star." Golden Gun: "...three rounds of sunfire" (I don't really know what that means" At least for the Nova Bomb, according to the lore, they are as powerful as a collapsing star. My theory on why it doesn't completely decimate the planet it's used on is because the Warlock purposefully holds back as to not destroy themselves in the process as the Grimoire also states "be careful in its use". Either that or the Warlock just barely taps into that power. If you read the Grimoire card for Warlocks, they almost seem way too OP as Warlocks have the potential to "shatter reality itself" or at least the secrets they hold do.

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  • Edited by IS0M0RPHIC: 8/9/2015 5:10:29 PM
    That doesn't mean master chief can't dodge a super, his reflexes allow him to see the world in slow motion, combine that with the ability to run at 30-40 mph and there's no way an guardian would be able to hit him. Also you keep leaving out one detail, a guardian needs to get a kill to charge a super, and by the time it's charged mc would have killed the guardian

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  • Eh. I wasn't arguing that a Guardian could beat MC because of that, but everyone seems to leave out one detail as well. Charging a super is gameplay, as in the player's control. It doesn't say anywhere in the lore that it needs to be recharged. That's just how the gameplay works. If that's the argument, one could argue that while MC's reaction time and perception of time is great, the player controlling him does not have that ability. Just saying. I don't really see the point of discussing who'd win a hypothetical fight anyways.

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  • Touché, let's just agree to disagree

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