The problem with the Y1 weapons is that Bungie did a design error. Those weapons from the Vog or Ce ? Too powerful. if they want to make any gear good, they need to get rid of the old ones, because the new will always be compare with the old. And what will be the verdict ? The old weapons are better than the new. Ask yourself : how many players used only HoW weapons to kill Skolas ? Here's the answer : [b]none[/b]. Because the old gear was too good. Then why ascension will you ask ? [b]Because people kept whining[/b]. Don't take that personally. I grinded for all those weapons too, I have all raids weapons. Am I sad that I won't be able to use them again ? Sure. But am I angry ? No. We have to move on.