I can see where you're coming from, you've put countless hours into this game, chasing that one weapon that you wanted/needed, that last piece of vault armour, that BlackHammer, (Would mention a PoE weapon here but I didn't chase any of them) Or even spending hours trying to go flawless, just to get that one adept weapon you needed. These are the weapons you built your character with, you've used them for a good portion of Year 1. But that's exactly what they are, Year 1 weapons. House of Wolves introduced ascension, but if you ask me, it wasn't put in for the benefit of the game, it was introduced because people wanted it. Back in vanilla Destiny you had strikes and the Vault, the grind was brutal but that made it all the more better when you finally got that last armour piece, or that weapon you wanted all that time, whether it was a Found Verdict, a Shadow Price, A SUROS or the Vex Mythoclast. The Dark Below removed most of the grind, but it was still there. But whereas the Vault could take weeks to get one piece of armour/weapon, with Crota, most people had what they needed in two weeks. But certain weapons were still there to grind for, whether they were Vanilla or new, exotic or legendary. House of Wolves introduced ascension, which for me at least, removed the entire excitement out of Destiny after a few days. PoE was good on paper, but quickly became nothing more than a way for Etheric light, not the armour pieces or the weapons, just Etheric light. Trials was a shitfest, nothing but two maybe three weapons at a push, whoever got the lucky shot off first would gain the lead, most of my Trials matches have been poking my head out of cover for two or three seconds, dodging Thorn all the way. Or listening intently into my headset listening to see if I can't hear where they are only to hear two rounds be fired off into a wall. The few matches that have been utter chaos were my favourite and I distinctly remember going 8-0 and finding a team that used nothing but No Land Beyond, that match was utterly terrifying because they were actually winning down to the final match where we managed to take it back. Where were these terrifying or exiting moments in PoE aside from day 1 or your first Skolas run? Ascension, was a double edged sword. It let us bring back all our favourites to their highest value again, plus it was nice seeing a few Vanilla weapons at 365. But it took the excitement out of Destiny, why bother searching for new weapons or armour pieces, when everything you're going to get is worse then everything you already have. Personally I think Destiny needs a hard stop, keep the exotics, ditch the rest, move on with the game. Because why keep the same Year 1/2 etc. weapons throughout the whole of a ten year plan? It makes no sense to me. I also realise that this is Bungies fault for some part, the weapons they introduced were below average for what you had to go through to get them, but if we could just maybe hold our tongues, wait and see what will actually happen in The Taken King, because while you've had to abandon everything you've had, maybe this time, the things we can find will actually be worth it.

I....actually.....agree? yea

Omg you're so right I agree with you 100%. Why waste all that time and money eating and drinking when I'll just go to the bathroom and have it all be for nothing?

I agree, I'm still waiting/ may not buy the new dlc on the sole reason of how they're handling their new release. I understand they messed up and made the first weapons "too good" and now they want to make them not upgradable so their new weapons can look good... But isn't that just saying we're going to give you the same kind of weapons but just newer looking ones in a way? Doesn't seem like they're making better weapons just keeping them the same but making sure we don't use the ones that were already "too good".... And to answer some folks questions... Yes, I would like using the fatebringer for 10 years, if that's what I want to do. I know mmos change and they move on. But there is a difference in upgrading up with new content vs just rendering everything useless. It's a complete slap in the face for the amount of time put in, imo. I'm not bitching just stating my opinion. I love destiny, spend way to much free time on it, trying to get the best roll for my allfate, trying to play with friends just to win trials, but if there isn't a slight change in their thought process to this release I will probably say bye bye to this game.

why is that a bad thing, im getting so bored of using the same weapons. give it a chance why dont ya

Good. Get the -blam!- out.

*complains about not having new content* Bungie: "ok lets give them a whole new meaning of content,(hunting weapons)" *complains about content* Seriously you people saw accension as being lazy.

damn all that time i spent grinding in halo 3 to get recon will be useless in this pretty much new game thats coming out. even so i had fun with halo 3 its all a waste now

Do you have an Iphone or a Samsung? do you still have the very first one that came out, refusing to buy an upgraded better version because you spent your hard earned money on the first one. No of course you don't. Grow up, grow a pair, accept change and build yourself a bridge to get over it.

People really need to stop comparing this game to MMOs like WoW. This is a fps. It's no more a "MMO" than CoD and halo.

Even exotics?..... If so, why play till the dlc?

I chased fun. All of them was fun. And they make me chase more fun. Yay!

I love that you are new to gaming

Keep some legendary a for pvp

A lpt of people answering you are extremely rude, thats what i dont like in this forums. That out of the way im torn on deciding ttk looksactually really good but so far the new weapons we have gotten have been worse than the ones before. I mean of icompare HoC with tracking and cluster bombs to a freaking void rocket launcher with shank burn it's obvious which one is better. I wouldnt have a problem woth them making previous weapons basically useless as lomg as they r actually equal or better.