The Vex: I know AnonPig did pretty well covering the Vex in his master theory, I think there were a few things that he may have unintentionally overlooked, one such thing being that some of the grimoire notes that the vex are tooled for combat and for building/construction. I cite the slap rifle grimoire card for information about this, it says "In non-combat conditions, the slap rifle seems like it could serve as a viable field transmitter, construction tool, navigational beacon, network repeater, or any of a number of other utility functions." So this indicates a number of uses that the vex use these as building tools, and they use these to easily terraform planets, like Mercury. I think that perhaps the traveller had used the vex, to terraform all the planets so they were habitable like Venus and Mars are. Perhaps they are still out there working, there are different factions, so to say, different divisions. Example the Hezen Corrective, and the Hezen protective or the Sol Progeny. So there could be other factions, and some possibly still controlled by the traveller out there, this can also be used in the reverse to explain that some factions of the Vex found the Black Garden, and began to worship it's heart. Also according to the Grimoire, the vex weaponry, other than the torch hammer wielded by minotaurs, are fired using a bolt of solar energy pulled from somewhere or sometime else. I think that's one of the reasons that the Vex chose to terraform and take over Mercury, as they would have access to a ton of solar energy there, as demonstrated by the Burning Shrine or The Lighthouse. So not only would Mercury be an ideal solar farm for the vex, but there would be few people/aliens to offer any significant amount of resistance. They will worm their way into the core of planets like they were attempting on Venus, and use them as base of operational, or power sources, for attacking/defending other territory, or other perhaps more nefarious purposes like the Vault of Glass. Now why was the vault of glass so important to the Vex, and why did it have to be on that specific spot on Venus. My personal belief is that the location of the vault, and of terminus and the portal to the Black Garden on Mars, are in certain locations for a very specific reason. That reason being space, or possibly time. I think the Vex chose these locations, mostly because there is something about the location where the vault resides that gives the Vex their incredible powers, and also they could have some sort of significance in the planets formation, or in its time line. Could be the fact that they are easy convergence places for the Vex, why terraform away a mountain to make a hub for time/space travel, when you can peak into the future and find a spot on a planet that almost never changes. This is demonstrated by the last mission of the original story, when you destroyed the Black Gardens heart, none of the land scape had changed, but you were back on Mars, in the same spot with the same architecture and landscape as well, another example of this would be Atheons room, I guess that's what I would call it, it shows for the most part how the Vex gates worked. Even though you were traveling to past and future Venus, to deal with Atheons oracles, the land scape is very much the same. Back on the subject of Vex weaponry, the obvious thing to talk about would be the Vex Mythoclast. Now you can read its description, "... A casual loop within the weapon's mechanism, suggesting that the firing process somehow binds space and time into...", basically the fusion rifle bolt being fired is the same one just being pulled through time. This could be how the vex are able to use their weapons as well. This is also how you can do the overcharge bounty with the Mythoclast, as it would be the same fusion rifle bolt killing multiple enemies, as long as you hold down the trigger. What some people may not know as well is that the pocket infinity was also based off of vex technology, like the slap rifle. The fire teams ghost you find on Venus is the fire team that found some Vex technology that was instrumental in the creation of this weapon. According to the grimoire card about it, they got "too close" to discovering some sort of vex secret or technology that allowed for repeated firing of a fusion rifle. It also says that you should exercise caution when using it, as it could draw from a vex source of power to drive the weapon. Getting more specific, as I believe that the vault of glass was a very important location to he vex. While Atheon himself may not dictate the ability of vex to travel through time, he is however a manager of sorts. He is know as "Time's Conflux", Conflux in this case refers to confluence, which is the act or process of merging. Maybe all time that the vex travel to may not be controlled or enabled by Atheon, but rather I think he is a processor, screening requests to travel, and processing which Vex go where and when, I think he's like a record keeper, which is why he's known as a Conflux as all the vex would have to go through him. Let's talk about the oracles, as not many people know what they are or what they do. As far as the the in game info and grimoire cards go, we are not sure exactly what the oracles are, what they are made of, or how they work, however we do know their function. They are processors of information and time, and this demonstrated in the mechanics of the Templar and the oracles in the vault. They "mark" you, as they are processing information they find you as an unwanted anomaly, and send a command for you to be erased, or negated, which is executed by the Templar. Also same idea for the Atheon fight, when you are sent in time you need to destroy them, before they can weed you out and pass the information to Atheon, for the "Propechy of Doom", or for you to be removed from the timeline. Now the truly scary enemies in the vault are the gorgons, who can simply look at you and erase you from time. Luckily the grimoire says that most of the abilities of the enemies in the vault are powerless outside of it. The only thing the grimoire doesn't explain is the Supplicants.

What do you guys think about Rasputin? And also, [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Post/65954/144517647/0/0]Osiris[/url]

My favorite lore is about dregden yor and toland. What are some of the names of the grimiore cards about those two?

Why is the Baron in the Devils Lair Strike and Vandals in VIP Patrols of the house of winter? I REALLY DONT GET THIS

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Servitors are the Fallens form of the traveller, since it visited them first. They live off of the Ether the servitors give them. Ether is a cheap and dirty version of light. They built servitors when the traveller left to try to keep they're light powered way of living. After the traveller left and they figured the servitor thing out, they tracked it down and now they are trying to get it back, whilst aimlessly scavenging and attempting to rebuild Houses. They are actually pretty smart and bad fukin ass. But yeah basically they are filled to the brim with ether, hence what happens when you pop their heads off. BOOM

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jcaf8 as you love rasputin we should discuss him here

Does anyone know any lore about the cabal? They seem to have the least of all the enemy factions

Discussion: This floaty ghost thing in the Vault, black garden, and nexus strike. What are they?

Anything about the fallen please list here

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So you all figured out that Kabr became Atheon, right?

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