Only vanilla guns I still have are The Calling (scout rifle has maximum range the bar is literally full) and my Hide and Seek Dead Orbit shotgun which beats out my "perfect roll" Judgement VI (HoW Version) my Judgement has Rangefinder, Rifled barrel, and Luck in the Chamber so its a monster in pvp, my Hide and Seek has Crowd Control (kills == bonus damage for a period of time), Cascade (melee kills increase the reload speed for a short time) and the glorious hammer forged(improved accuracy and range) oh and Accurized Ballistics (more impact and range. I dusted it off a little while ago I had no idea I was leaving such a gem in my nasty vault (I guess I forgot about it for awhile until HoW dropped) Immediately ascended it to 365. ooh its also void so its wrecks praetorians in vog (also has a faster fire rate than my judgement I'm pretty sure its equal to or surpasses found verdicts fire rate). The Calling I haven't used because the perks aren't that good but stat wise it looks like a great rifle for Pve and PVP.