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8/2/2015 5:56:25 PM
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And, when they become obsolete, and your vault is full of guns that don't measure up, then what?
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  • And who says they will become obsolete?

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  • Well, considering this game is based off grinding, why would Bungie make it so players didn't have to spend time grinding weapons and gear? I mean, every thing they've ever done for this game is meant to make people spend more time playing. Who would chase new gear if they could always just ascend their gear.

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  • I don't disagree with what you are saying but to make the assumption gear will not be ascendable for year two is premature

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  • It's based off Bungie recent history.

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  • What the recent history in which they allowed the ascension of year one gear? Exotics will be ascendable, that much is a concrete certainty and I honestly can't see them making vault of glass and crota even more irrelevant than they are currently because at the end of the day, why would anyone want to run those raid if the gear was utterly pointless? The evidence is that the new level cap is going to be 50, it will at the very least be 10 levels above where we are now so the weapons will be increasing by a similar level which would make any weapons stuck at current levels utterly useless

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  • No. The recent history of DeeJ saying peoe need to define their gear and that vault space isn't expanding.

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  • And what if people define old gear as their gear?

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  • Bungie won't care. Hasn't everyone figured that out yet? What does Bungie want? More hours played. How do they get it? By making people chase new gear. This is a loot based game. If there were no reason to chase loot, what would there be?

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  • Or people could chase the items that let them ascend their gear...?

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  • 90% of my gear is ascended. Didn't take long. Either way, I don't think Bungie will be allowing much gear to ascend. They simply don't care what customers want, only on implementation of their vision to make moolah

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  • So as an Xbox player, are you telling me you expect the playstation exclusives to be released to Xbox users and immediately become useless?

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  • Yeah. Pretty much.

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  • Well then, you are going to be pleasantly surprised the aren't you because even bungievision isn't stupid enough to think they could pull that one off

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  • I don't care about your past experiences or your personal feelings. Bungie could make just as much moolah with ascension as without.

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  • This ^^ Because at the end of the day once you have paid for the game, they make no more money from you until the next DLC. They don't make money based on how long you play

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  • They could? Prove that

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  • K. [quote]Because at the end of the day once you have paid for the game, they make no more money from you until the next DLC. They don't make money based on how long you play[/quote]

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  • Edited by NOVA Perc: 8/2/2015 7:27:39 PM
    And what stat do you think they take to investors to show that this isn't a dead product? Oh. That's right. Hours played. That's the ONLY stat they've ever released. And if you are ascending the gear what's the point of spending money to develop new gear?

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  • Edited by Demagogue: 8/2/2015 7:33:46 PM
    Number of unique users? Preorder for the next DLC? To keep people playing with new content? Not reskins?

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  • Boom. You nailed it [i]exactly[/i]. To keep players using new content. DeeJ said it himself when pressed about Vault Space. He said "there are moments where we ask you to make tough decisions.” Hmmm. Doesn't sound too promising. What " tough decisions " is he talking about that coincides with Vault Space?

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  • Edited by Demagogue: 8/2/2015 8:03:45 PM
    But that's not what I said. That we will need to decide between our old gear and the new gear? If one was better than the other it wouldn't be a "tough decision", now would it?

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  • I agree that it looks slim that year one will be up to par attack wise with year two but when bungie announced the deletion of our beta characters they said would stick with us over the next 10 years. Not sure if it includes weapons/gear but just saying.

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  • I think it's just the characters. There's no way they keep bumping weapons. No one would play if they could take Suros Regime til the end....

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  • I thought exotics will always upgrade and the legendaries is what will change

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  • Maybe, but I doubt they carry exotics all the way for 10 years. Vaults wouldn't even begin to hold all that gear.

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