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Guardians can die fifty times, Im all for MC but once hes down, hes down.
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  • Thanks to his "luck" he'll never stay down though.

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  • Spartans rarely die. There are actually several left, not counting the new generation of Spartan IVs. And guardians can definitely die permanently. Their revival depends on the ghost (and some ambiguous period of time to revive the guardian). When the ghost is destroyed, the guardian is absolutely dead. Gameplay reasons prevent your guardian from permanent death (if they were real sentient enemies of the darkness, they'd go for your ghost first, then kill you).

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  • "Haven't you heard? Spartans never die." Proceeds to nuke himself together with a covenant armada. Anyone who knows who I'm quoting gets a cookie :-)

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  • Good ol' Kurt.

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  • You get a cookie! :-)

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  • You get a cookie! :-)

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  • The only way a ghost can die is if you take out its light and only the darkness can absorb the light out of a ghost

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  • No, Petra killed a whole fireteam of guardians with an air strike. They can definitely kill a ghost with purely physical acts.

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  • Killed emphasis on killed we kill guardians all the time in the crucible but they come back.those guardians came back but they weren't happy by being blown up without notice

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  • No, the card says the strike killed the guardians, ghosts and all. Thus thoroughly enraging the tower and causing the queen to demote Petra.

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  • It doesn't say it killed there ghosts

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  • Edited by Helio Skitzer: 8/3/2015 4:13:53 AM
    "The blasts tore apart the Wolves, the Guardians, and their Ghosts. Three strike teams of guardians gone in an instant. On my command." Check the allies card for petra.

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  • Okay thanks but the awoken are armed by the nine so that wasn't a normal air strike like we know them. Maybe the awoken have weaponry of the darkness.

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  • I think we should view the ghosts as a sort of sentient light battery that opens doors/hacks stuff while alerting every enemy in a 3 mile radius of your presence. The battery needs to be recharged by being in the presence of light (near the traveller). The further away they are, the more their activities cost the to the point they run out, which is why that one dead ghost found by a dead orbit expedition died, because it was too far from the light for too long. And being in the presence of the darkness slows it's abilities to revive (some darkness slows it down because it can't gather ambient light fast, a lot stops it because it cannot gather enough to revive on its own at all, and even more means it cannot revive even with help, Aka hard mode). Additionally, the hive have an ability to drain it even more than usual, as evidenced in the dark below grimoire cards where eris' fireteam's ghosts slowly lose their light. And finally, if the battery casing is damaged, it loses energy on its own. So a damaged ghost may hemorrhage some light. A destroyed ghost loses all of it.

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  • Even the dead ghost grimoire card mentions their shells can be broken.

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  • I don't think they're armed by the nine. I don't remember seeing anything like that. They seem to merely have a somewhat tumultuous relationship (since they did something to upset the nine during a recon mission, they gave them skolas as a gift, then the nine had xur release skolas with his own ketch to go start over). The Awoken don't seem to have an affiliation with either the light or dark, as most of their tech seems to be derived from old golden aged ships. Additionally, there's another piece of lore that indicates ghosts are susceptible to damage. Invective's text states, "They made a grab for my ghost. After that, it was a short conversation." Indicating that Ikora (the owner of invective) was having a conversation/argument with a normal person and the person tried to grab/harm her ghost. Considering these bits, the lack of any lore supporting the theory that ghosts are invincible aside from darkness absorbing their light, and the multitude of dead ghosts, I'm going to stick with the general theory that ghost's physical shell can be damaged and destroyed.

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  • Spartans never die

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  • All but one die :P

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  • [quote]All but one die :P[/quote] You realize there are over 500 spartans still alive?

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  • I doubt that guys reads lol

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  • You do know there are guardians that have perma-died right?

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  • Only as plot devices. I think the real fight is between Cortana and Dinklebot.

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  • Cortana is a lot better than Dinklebot. If Dinklebot tries to open a door, it will take him 15 minutes, while Cortana will open it almost instantly.

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  • Dinkle bot will lose he only opens doors....

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