Just a week or two ago, I was running VOG on my wife's account trying to get found verdict for her. Ran 6 VOG (normal then hard) all with lfg. It started at the top and quickly fell like a rock getting progressively worse each new run. First normal...a breeze, second....manageable but I wondered why 5 other 34s wanted to do confluxes, oracles, and templar from the top platform, on normal. Third.....utter chaos, 34s dieing frequently, asking to do everything from the top, spent 20 min convincing them to leave for gorgon just so I could get through it because they did not understand the concept of don't run or jump (not needed in normal), and then spent another 20 min waiting at the bottom of the jump maze waiting for them (all 34s mind you). Then on gatekeeper, only the two relic holders (myself as one) survived the center defense and even that almost didn't make it as the other relic holder died, thank god it was just after we cleared it. On atheon, multiple wipes as multiple times relic was dropped or no one picked it up. It is unbelievable some of the groups you find yourself in. Since crotas end I think I've only been a part of 4 groups (out of probably 70 or so runs) that would do the bridge part legit. Really kills raiding.