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7/17/2015 11:15:34 AM
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All these nerfs were not needed for PVE players
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Ghorn def needed a nerf
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the way I see it. I like most of what was done. I didn't care about the exotic hand cannons (I use thorn, but I triple tap anyway so I could care less.), but I don't feel like all hand cannons needed to be kicked in the nuts for pve. Auto rifle buff! Who can't get behind that? And necrochasm might half be worth the BS to get it so that's exciting that maybe it will be useful outside of arc burn. Icebreaker: why is this nerf a thing? The only purpose it serves is to slow down the game. If you're using icebreaker like this then the game is slow enough already. Icebreaker was already a niche weapon that is only really used in a few situations. This "tension" that they want to build doesn't exist, and isn't going to. Black hammer: this one grinds my gears the most. The whole magic of black hammer was being rewarded with ammo over quick precision shots. No one cares about not having to reload. This weapon isn't about the speed. Black hammer has the tension they talk about with icebreaker: land two precision shots and grind your teeth praying the enemy doesn't jump out of your way on the 3rd. I won't have this moment anymore, because I'm chewing through ammo anyway so who cares. Sure it's still OK, but not nearly as worth it. A change I would have been fine with is leaving the perk alone, and dropping the amount of ammo you carry. That would have added to the tension, and kept it a great weapon IF you were good with it. Jelly: the nerf is stupid. either you nerf it into oblivion so no one wants it (because it won't be worth the exotic slot), or it maintains an edge anyway, and the elitists will still require people to have it. There is no way to make it an "inclusive" weapon. That is about the caliber of the community, and not the caliber of the weapon. It should just get sold again to give more people access if you don't want it to factor in to excluding people. I did notice dragons breath didn't get revamped to compete in the heavy exotic division. That might have been another smart alternative. My issue with things is simple. Legendaries: should be good staple weapons Raid/ IB/ Trials legendaries: should be better. You have to work harder for them, and they should outclass regular legendaries if only slightly. (Not just because of burns). Exotics: should be the best of the best at something with no exception. You can only equip 1. It should be a struggle. You shouldn't look at an exotic next to a legendary and it be a tough choice. If it is then the exotic is garbage, and it shouldn't be one or there is no point in heaving weapon tiers. Exotics should only have to compete against other exotics for superiority. Gally: unrivaled in crushing an enemy. Thunderlord: unrivaled in potential number of kills/ spread or mass crowd control. Truth: many player's go to PvP heavy They all have specific purpose and should be the best bar none for the intended purpose.
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We must nerf a one shot kill weapon in PvP! You gotta think with your brain! Nobody wants one hit rockets!
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They were. Maybe people will stop cheesing -blam!-ing everything for once
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45 RepliesEdited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 7/17/2015 12:21:51 PMYeah except they were. - Shotguns made ANY enemy dead with ease - Black Hammer and Ice Breaker made Juggler/Nightfall strikes into jokes - G-Horn needed to be brought down since day 1. No weapon should be able to kill that quickly. You may not be happy that the crutches that lazy PvE players used have been nerfed, but for the rest of us we are more than happy to see the G-Horn/Ice Breaker or GTFO mentality go out the window. Now people might actually pull their heads out of their ass and look at the other exotics and we can get some variety in this game rather than everyone using the same exact loadout.
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Some things are really stupid, such as the fusion rifle PVE nerf
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Someone has sand in their vagina. ..
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Amen brother.
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So you decided to look past the balances that helped Pve? NLB buff, Lord of Wolves will probably be like Red Death now, and thanks to Gjally being nerfed, we now have a chance to use our exotic slot on something else.
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3 RepliesOnly idiots thinks these changes are stupid. PvE still needed these changes because it made a lot of content too easy. They are just trying even things out.
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Of course I get the thorn bounty. Then I see that they are nerfing it.
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29 RepliesExactly, PvP had need of a balance, PvE did not.
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1 Replygjallarhorn still too stronk. nerf doesnt seem to be too much. still better than any rocket. still wont use a machine gun unless they double the dmg.
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25 RepliesEdited by SiNister: 7/17/2015 11:37:20 AMAuto rifles where shit in PVE too, or do you want them to carry on being shit? And for once you can't just speed rush things now with the easy weapons, was one of the reasons I stopped playing PVE
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Make shotguns good for pve. Oops we don't want you having fun nerf shotguns for pve. Super smart. No one uses fusion rifles better nerf the bullet velocity too.
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2 RepliesEvery update kills PVE more.
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4 RepliesDamn right, You wanna make PVE difficult just -blam!-ing up it to level 34-35 on everything, or give the option to. -blam!-ing FIXED!
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What a bunch of -blam!-ing morons. "Oh we listen to the community...." GTFO since when did we say that shotguns should have a 10% nerf against PvE Idiots
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Most guns are getting a damage buff against AI.....
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9 RepliesI'm all for PVP balancing but nerfing PVE weapons is BS and I'm getting tired of it.
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Pvp ruins everything.
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Nope but we got them nonetheless. This is complete and utter BS.
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4 RepliesI agree with some of the nerfs but not all of them! First don't nerf gally, ice breaker, black hammer, and hawkmoon! There is nothing op about them! After all these nerfs plus thorn and last word! What Exotics will be left that are actually viable to use? I can only think of a couple.
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I think you are misunderstanding there aren't very many pve nerfs at all let alone nerfs... It's balancing out the weapons so there are more viable they are buffing most of the weapons there just nerfing the weapons with op bonuses
