[quote]I mean Hard VoG, Hard CE's, Hard PoE all against A.I. Why isn't flawless ToO involved in the year one Emblem? Is it because it's PvP? Maybe because it's to hard for people, but still it is one of the big four things to do each week so why isn't it involved? I think it should be involved. Maybe not even flawless but at lest completing one passage coin with 9 wins. What do you guys think? Should it be included? Please Bump it you think ToO should be involved. Edit: And also for PvE I have never done a hard raid and I am going to have to try and get through them. And then PoE on hardest it's going to be horrible I hate PoE. So I don't see why I have to go through something I hate and am not every good at (I will get through them tho) and all the PvE people don't have to go through PvP, I really think 9 wins in one trails run should be there, just to make in even between PvE players & PvP players. Edit 2: To everyone saying that it is to hard to get to the lighthouse This is for the Bungie Update after the first week of ToO "If you stood Trial in the Burning Shrine, step forth to be counted. 3,798,561 = Trials of Osiris matches played 118,627,301 = Kills (or Deaths, if your glass be half-empty) 188,442 = Players visited the Mercurial promised land 299,001 = Guardians scored a perfect scorecard" So 188,442 made it to the lighthouse... in the first week... Edit 3: A great idea for Mr Raaad who says that a minimum grimoire requirement might be a good thing to add as well, Say 3000[/quote] That's an easy answer. With the Trials there are too many variables that will stop day one players from completing it. Examples are cheaters, lag switchers, internet going out, power going out, the list goes on. These are things that will give you a loss. Another thing is in my case, I went 9-0, but that was after getting a loss. So that counts as not going flawless even though it was 9 wins without loosing after one loss.