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Edited by TheFlyingRocket: 7/9/2015 8:52:20 PM
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One Year Emblem! Why isn't flawless ToO included in the thing we need to do?(poll)

Yes Flawless trails ran should be included!

1019

Completing one passage coil with 9 wins.

405

Shouldn't be included.

2475

I mean Hard VoG, Hard CE's, Hard PoE all against A.I. Why isn't flawless ToO involved in the year one Emblem? Is it because it's PvP? Maybe because it's to hard for people, but still it is one of the big four things to do each week so why isn't it involved? I think it should be involved. Maybe not even flawless but at lest completing one passage coin with 9 wins doesn't need to be flawless . What do you guys think? Should it be included? Please Bump it you think ToO should be involved. Edit: And also for PvE I have never done a hard raid and I am going to have get through them. And then PoE on hardest is not going to be fun as I hate PoE. So I don't see why I have to go through something I hate and am not every good at (I will get through them tho) and all the PvE people don't have to go through PvP, I really think 9 wins in one trails run should be there, just to make in even between PvE players & PvP players. Edit 2: To everyone saying that it is to hard to get to the lighthouse This is for the Bungie Update after the first week of ToO "If you stood Trial in the Burning Shrine, step forth to be counted. 3,798,561 = Trials of Osiris matches played 118,627,301 = Kills (or Deaths, if your glass be half-empty) 188,442 = Players visited the Mercurial promised land 299,001 = Guardians scored a perfect scorecard" So 188,442 made it to the lighthouse... in the first week... Edit 3: A great idea for Mr Raaad who says that a minimum grimoire requirement might be a good thing to add as well, Say 3000. Edit 4: To everyone saying that if Flawless Trials is there, then flawless raider would have to be there as well. I would love this as it would give me a reason to get good at PvE again. Edit 5: Thanks to everyone who voted and commented

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    you will always get outvoted by casuals, shame…. flawless raider and lighthouse should be required.

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    • Cause trials is a shitstorm of thorns/last words, final round snipers/shotguns with retarded range, and rockets. Oh and don't forget about cheaters/hackers/lag switchers. Yeah I think il pass.

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    • 8 flawless then a lagswitcher and we lose. This has happened to me 3 times now. Gotta love XBox.

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      • Edited by Sobieske: 7/8/2015 10:47:38 AM
        You yourself answered your poll. (I don't see why I should have to do something I hate and am not good at.) That is the exact reason as to why people can say the exact opposite with the same logic. If someone hates trials and is not good at it why only give those who do and are the emblem. Just thought I'd mention that. Also a side note, it is easy to get carried through the raids, and hell with skolas as easy as he is now even he too as long as you do the only needed part of pulling essence and killing some spawns.

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        • No... ToO just came out.. so whats the point.

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          • Is this just an 'I've gone flawless in ToO' post? Look at me? Please give me some attention. Lmao.

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            • There are plenty of people who have cheated or been carried.

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              • I've gone flawless but I don't think it should be in the year one rewards

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              • Main game is about Pve. Pvp is an after thought to cater to the pvp crowd. You can't stop the darkness, kill atheon, kill crota, gain the Queens favor by simply playing pvp matches.

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              • Edited by steadyhand08: 7/8/2015 10:59:57 AM
                Winning ToO is outside of player control either you get lucky with who you draw or you pull a streamer and get face stomped lol. Everything in the list is in direct control of the player. Even it means I have too make a "can someone carry me though PoE 35" post. It is at least doable and not down to chance based on who I draw. Edit for English fail

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              • If you have a solid team it's easy if you don't it's near impossible. I think it would be wrong to punish those players that haven't found their solid team yet

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              • Because there is an exotic Emblem already die flawless ToO.

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              • Edited by Fenrir VI: 7/8/2015 10:46:43 AM
                It should not be included, the emblem is not meant to be some super exclusive hardcore try hard pants achievement. It is to signify you have been around ingame since the beginning. You already get an exclusive emblem and elemental primaries and all the other rewards for going flawless, this reward is meant to go out to as many people as possible. Also, using the first weeks trials stats is ridiculous, most people that made it to the lighthouse rushed to 34 so they would be able to have a significant advantage over level 32s and 33s and there was a large pool of non pvp players trying out trials since it was new. If Bungie released the numbers that have played in trials for the last week or two, I'm positive those numbers have sharply declined. Hell, I don't think I'm terrible at pvp (not amazing at it either) and I cant even find a group to get 5 wins against all the try hard teams, and have been completely turned off to Game of Thorns with the constant t-bagging and "OMG YOU SUCK LOLOLOL" messages I've got.

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              • It's not included because you get an even cooler emblem from going to lighthouse... *facepalm*

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              • If it was max Grimoire, y'all would shit in your pants.

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              • Everybody who thinks flawless should be included is an elitist who has lost touch with what "fun" means. Video games should be fun and provide entertainment. Yes, hard raids for most players were difficult at first and maybe those hours of wiping were not enjoyable, but it got better over time. Trials on the other hand was set up to be "competitive", and I use that term loosely because of all the cheating going on under brother vances watch. Face it, this is more of a tour of duty emblem as compared to a purple heart or special forces emblem. Please don't take my military comparison too seriously. Huge difference between video games and actual war.

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              • Edited by FitzyWATP: 7/8/2015 10:47:15 AM
                Voted no, but I'm unsure. I've only completed trials because I have friends who are far far better PVPrs than me. I was late to start trying the raids because I didn't have enough friends who played destiny at first to run it. I've been very lucky in the fact that I met a good group of guardians who welcomed me into their group and helped me get better and complete the tasks needed to get the emblem. It seems a bit off to me that a player who has played the game a lot since release but hasn't been lucky in the friends they have made in the game can be excluded for effectively that reason. I don't think there will be too many who would have met all the requirements without anyone elses help.

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              • Trials is broken with lag switchers and other types of cheaters that bungie cannot control

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              • It didn't even include Iron Banana so Trials would be pushing it ;D On a related note it's an emblem you'll stick in your vault after 10 minutes so don't fret. Perhsps they should introduce the hardcore version for the truly insane. Flawless everything. 1000 completions of everything. Mark of the unbroken etc. The emblem could be a picture of the sun so the people that have it have seen it at least once in the last year XD

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              • Edited by Mar-Shin Z Slayer: 7/8/2015 10:40:06 AM
                We would drown in a sea of tears if this happens lol.

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              • I think it should require both a flawless Trials run and flawless raider. I would be cool if they require one or the other though. Just something that says hey this emblem actually means something rather than it just being a handout for doing story missions lol

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                • Because ToO is full of cheaters and boosters.

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                  • Flawless should be included. And to the people who say it shouldnt,, hard crota and PoE (Skolas) gives you an emblem so... try again.

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                    • I told my sister about the challenges, here's how our conversation went. She's level 28 and doesn't play often. Me: So there are these challenges they added. They're really hard but you have till September 9 to clear them. If you work hard you can probably do it. Wanna give it a shot? Her: I mean yeah, sure. What do I have to do? Me: One of them is 100 wins in the crucible... Her: Nevermind. Me: You su-- Her: Just not doing it. Not doing it.

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                      • Because of lag switchers. It wouldn't be fair that people would be denied the emblem due to other humans cheating. Pve has no cheating AI. take myself for instance. I have about 3 hours of playtime from Friday till Monday night. That's enough for maybe 1 run through TOO and the rest to finish pve stuff. Everytime I play TOO I go 8-0, 7-0, or 6-0 and run into streaming laggers thAt ruin my chance

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                      • Flawless Trials has enough rewards as it is. Also, that would be excluding way too much of the player base. Despite how some people like to boast, going flawless is not easy, and the majority of people have not and never will do it.

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