They're both incredibly immature people who've let the twitch-game get to their heads. I'm sure they're good people IRL, but on twitch they can both be real douchebags. I wouldn't drop a cent there way. The chat is toxic and the streamers shoot down anyone who disagrees with them. All I hear is potty jokes and angry rants about chat trolls. It's irritating to watch. Needless to say I stick to small streamers with around 150 or less subscribers.