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7/5/2015 5:28:27 PM
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Their beliefs may be different, but Jews believe in the same God. They are in fact God's chosen people.
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I still don't see how this would prove gods existence, look at atheists. They used to be killed for not believing, that is certainly ridicule towards atheists, but that doesn't mean they can say God doesn't exist because they were ridiculed. I'm agnostic so I could go either way but I certainly don't believe that the Christian God is the true God! That is absurd and highly improbable. to make such an assumption, let alone base your life off of said assumption, is insane!
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And actually, you're right. Though God may prove himself through His creation, we ultimately accept Him through faith, as do atheists and evolutionists and such in their beliefs.
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There really isn't much of any faith required to believe in evolution, it is highly supported and has been proven on many accounts
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It ultimately comes down to faith. No one was there to see the Big Bang happen or whatever origin story you believe. No account was recorded. People say that it is science but the scientific method requires observation and experimentation. Never before has something come out of nothing and that something become something alive.
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Well first off, something didn't come from nothing, the matter and energy was there. And the Big Bang has more evidence than any religion has for their creation accounts. Also, scientists have been able to create life from non-living things, ie elements and chemical reactions.
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Have you ever heard of irreducible complexity?
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Yes, what of it?
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We say water, earth, and everything is made up of a specific molecular compound or element, but do we really know what it is? We have no idea. It could only be this orderly with a creator. It would be impossible otherwise. Look, we could go back and forth forever. We're both just to solid in our beliefs and both know very much of our science. This is my last post. I won't post anything else after this because what I should be doing is showing you love instead trying to argue God into you. I just want you to know, that even you deny God's existence, He loves you, and will accept you should you chose to follow, which will lead to the understanding and answers which you seek. It would be like building a robot with free will and that robot rejects you. You still admire the work you put into your robot. My work here is done, and I leave you to your thoughts and a choice.
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Well I know my science but you don't seem to understand much of what I am trying to say with it.
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Edited by Dark Zolkoft: 7/6/2015 4:04:40 AMNo I understood it all. And by the way the Ocean gets more salt and junk through erosion and the fruit flies only adapt and do not evolve. Very small organisms never grow into large ones. And intermediates have not been found and could never survive. And I get that you want evidence. In a today's society people only believe what they see. True you cannot see God, but do you not see trees shake in the wind? And sorry I lied in the last post, I couldn't help it.
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Do some research on evolution for yourself, find a few peer reviewed journals and see for yourself.
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And see what?
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And those elements and chemical reactions were conveniently very well controlled. And where did the energy come from? Everything came from something, and that's God. I would tell you where God came from if I could, but He is in about 10 dimensions while we are in only 4.
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Earth began far after the Big Bang and life began very very simplistic, even more simplistic than a eukaryote that we might see today through a microscope.
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I'm not saying we're right because we're told were not every now and then, but just saying that the Bible predicted that this would happen, that people would single out Christians for their beliefs. And although it just seems hard to believe, there is a God and you can know him by reading his Word, which has never found any fault and has proven itself to be correct many times.
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Really? No fault? LOL so how about the fact that it clearly states that humans were created as humans and did not evolve from hominids? Or that it suggests the earth is only 10000 years old while just about everything points to approximately 4 billion years?
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If you think about it we are actually DEvolving. People don't say "I have my father's good eye sight." Instead you hear, "I have my father's bad joints," and things like that. And it's been scientifically proven that mutation can never result in anything beneficial, but rather a corrupt organism.
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To be honest, yes humans are devolving, not backwards though we are just evolving badly. We have no threats and so natural selection doesn't kick in as often as it should and we develop bad traits.
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Natural selection and evolution are two different things. Put weak animals and strong animals of the same kind into a room and strong animals come out on top. That doesn't mean they changed. They just survived. And evolution also has never been recorded. Animals may adapt to their surroundings, but that is only a change in type, not in species entirely.
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Evolution has been recorded, it is seen in fruit flies and maggots as well as many other animals and plants
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Natural selection is a mechanic of evolution, the weaker die before they are able to reproduce. The stronger reproduce to make stronger offspring.
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Edited by Dark Zolkoft: 7/5/2015 7:58:33 PMLike what points out? Carbon dating that is totally unreliable? In those rocks they dated to see how old the Earth was there was helium which would have escaped from the rock after much shorter than the age of what scientists claim. Also all of our oceans would be made of salt and I could drive to England. Also if we came from apes why are there still apes? Did they just decide not to evolve?
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So you age of the earth guess is better than all that science has to offer on the age of the earth? You think that you are smarter than every scientist that has come to that conclusion? Well go publish your findings, have it peer-reviewed and then receive all of your accolades and awards! Moving on, Why would the ocean be all salt? Also we didn't come from apes, as I stated in the last comment we evolved from hominids, we do, however, share a common ancestor with apes and bonobos.
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Really the only thing I'm trying to get across is God is real. You don't have to believe that. I'm here to tell you that he does and that Jesus died in the cross for you to save you from your sins, and that if you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, you will be saved. That's really all that I can do. I can't force you to believe that, but I'm trying my best to help you and all else reading. We could argue all day about what's true and what's not and all of the different proofs and errors, so I'll just end this by saying that Jesus loves you and you may choose to accept Him.
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And all I'm trying to say is he has no real evidence and your beliefs don't affect the truth. Whether you accept that or not it's your choice but I choose not to believe anything without substantial evidence
