EA really -blam!-ed with those games, too. But Mass Effect is a GREAT series that I love and will actually replay when the re-release for next gen comes out. Ex: Pratorian (misspelled I know) backstory/mission being cut as DLC. Complete bullshit. EA messed them up on that. But they are still great games. Activision is messing up Destiny. But it still isn't a great game on its own merits despite the Activision failures. It's an ok game at best. Will anyone replay vanilla Destiny story for the sake of playing it 3 years after release? Absolutely not.