Even the ones from lore, they are stronger than our guardians, much stronger than our guardians. That is why they're legend.
And that doesn't defeat the fact that goku and vegeta would be level 1 equivalent, new universe, new rules.
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They've gone to different universes and they don't start at level 1 so your argument is invalid. Are any guardians able to destroy an entire planet with one shot? No. Goku can. /thread
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What says this universe supports kai energy? You need to come to terms that this universe may NOT support the energy that goku and vegeta weild, and it will be useless then. They've been through different timelines of their universe, but interdimensional travel is more complicated. The laws of physics in one place cannot exist in every plane. If in the destiny universe kai energy is unusable, then that renders saiyens no more threatening as a dreg. In this situation the guardians would win hands down as they can wield the powers of light, and the darkness that of dark. Goku and vegeta cannot weild light or dark energy, and they would perish.
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Then you're not comparing fairly. Don't be an idiot
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How is it not fair?
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Cause you're stripping Goku from his power so how is it even Goku at this point...
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Well maybe it's not fair, but it makes sense.
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I can make sense of the opposite. Just not wasting my time. You can make sense out of anything if you're good enough at it.
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Edited by Astro4545: 7/1/2015 6:49:32 PMStill there is absolutely no reason to expect there to be Ki in Destiny whatsoever.
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Good thing Kai isn't an energy source he uses. It's a technique. You don't even know what you're talking about.
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Maybe not, but apparently neither do you.
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Highly doubt that
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Really? Firstly SRED said Kai energy also and you didn't say anything to him. Secondly, I meant to use Ki.
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Dude you're dumb ki is living energy, seeing as he makes a giant ball of it to kill buu and it comes from humans. Anyone who throws out the "well ki might not exist.." argument just doesn't want to lose
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No, Ki exits in DBZ it might not exist in Destiny.
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That's like saying life force exists in dbz but doesn't exist in destiny. Last I checked "universe" meant one universe there big guy. Lol you need to read up on what ki is if you think destiny wouldn't have it we guardians use light which is..for all intents and purposes, ki
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And light exists in three separate variants. Plus the Darkness works similar to the light.
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Ok you've done nothing to refute that ki exists other than saying that it can be used for multiple things. As long as things are alive and have a life force flowing through them, they have ki, just bc the guardians shape.it into arc solar and void energy doesn't mean thy don't draw from the same source
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Edited by Astro4545: 7/2/2015 1:44:20 PMYou're right Ki does exist, it exists as Light/Darkness but the light has three different aspects which can only be wielded separately. Now as others have suggested Gokus powers use several of the aspects at once. so he is now forced to use one aspect separate of the others, which he cannot; at least straight away. Plus he would then be constrained to using one the 9 subclasses as the Light in Destiny apparently only works in these ways.(or our Guardians aren't very creative.) Also I never once said they don't draw it from the same source, just that it can only be wielded separate from each other.
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Lol you're just making up arguments now, who says he can't use them all? Or that he would need to fit into a subclass, that's a game mechanic lol. The dude has a technique literally called solar flare. And then shoots waves of what would amount to extremely powerful arc damage. It's hard to say he would fit far outside any of the subclasses
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The game says he can't, your class determines your subclasses. He's invading Destiny's universe so he has to confirm to the rules of the Universe.
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Lol says who? The game is almost a year old. Who is to say we haven't found the other 30 subclasses? Or a new type of light? Yeah no you can't just take a fight and shape it how you want so the other loses and call it a day lol. In a straight fight, full power goku vs full power destiny, nothing short of multiple cabal warships hitting him at once or aetheon sending him back in time, is going to stop him. And even then, he's multitudes faster than the speed of light, and create afterimagez, and could destroy all the warships with a flick of his wrist lol and aetheon just requires him leaving the vault of glass and nuking it or just nuking all of Venus to begin with.
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Edited by Astro4545: 7/2/2015 4:47:54 PMDo I really need to repeat myself? He's going into the games universe, your class determines your subclasses in Destiny; and you cannot use more than one subclass at a time. This is current Destiny rules so he would have to conform to these rules. Also VoGs entrance exists on Venus but its actually in its own time stream. So it's indestructible.
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Edited by Thr0ckmorton: 7/2/2015 4:50:54 PMLol once again I'll repeat myself. Says who? Eris doesn't have a class. Speaker doesn't have a class. Cabal don't have a class. Vex don't have a class. Goku would be a saiyan...a completely different entity, who can draw from the light. Idk where you're getting that he is going to be forced to pick if he wants to be gunslinger or a bladedancer or such lol. Those are purely game mechanics that force you to pick one. And yeah point me to the grimoire which says the door or walls are indestructible
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Edited by Astro4545: 7/2/2015 5:09:22 PMEris is a Hunter, The Speaker is a warlock. And of course the Vex, Cabal, and fallen wouldn't have a class that's just stupidity on your part. And as he would be forced to use game mechanics as that is the Destiny Universe he would have to have a class.
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Lol you're seriously dumb man. Game mechanics are game mechanics, guardians don't have 200 health bc the game says so you twat