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6/30/2015 10:35:38 PM
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"Power levels are bullshit."
And that is the argument. We get space magic, they have space magic and if this were to occur, the "power levels are bullshit" card would put them on the same level. Guardians have no power levels (invisihunters are invisible) guardians weild a different kind of power that the saiyens couldn't master, and so, we'd basically be fighting against Beams with aoe damage, super damage bullets and unbreakable bunker shields.
And this is just guardians. Atheon can pause them and spawn enough oracles to fit in vegetas ego, Crota can only be killed by his sword, so, if he's standing there next to the guardians, without his hive knights, there's no sword to weild. The cabal blow up planets and moons and the fallen have Randal the Vandal.
When we compare the numbers, there's more than 12 million guardians, unlimited hive, vex, fallen, cabal VS 2 saiyens, one of which has the monkey form, the other of which is now a super saiyen God according to the latest movies as far as I know.
Thing is, vegeta and goku need the dragon shenron to revive them if they die, guardians can revive each other.
[spoiler]only real way this is unfair and that the saiyens win no problem is to just wish the destiny universe out of existence XD[/spoiler]
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I love that quote
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12 million Guardians in Destiny lore? Really? Wonder where they fit them all in the tower and city.
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This is an stack on destiny, and those were the numbers of guardians created by us players. Of course, our guardians would also be fighting too.
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No they wouldn't be. Destiny lore doesn't have that many Guardians. Crota didn't get defeated thousands of times by millions of Guardians.
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Even the ones from lore, they are stronger than our guardians, much stronger than our guardians. That is why they're legend. And that doesn't defeat the fact that goku and vegeta would be level 1 equivalent, new universe, new rules.
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They've gone to different universes and they don't start at level 1 so your argument is invalid. Are any guardians able to destroy an entire planet with one shot? No. Goku can. /thread
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What says this universe supports kai energy? You need to come to terms that this universe may NOT support the energy that goku and vegeta weild, and it will be useless then. They've been through different timelines of their universe, but interdimensional travel is more complicated. The laws of physics in one place cannot exist in every plane. If in the destiny universe kai energy is unusable, then that renders saiyens no more threatening as a dreg. In this situation the guardians would win hands down as they can wield the powers of light, and the darkness that of dark. Goku and vegeta cannot weild light or dark energy, and they would perish.
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Then you're not comparing fairly. Don't be an idiot
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How is it not fair?
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Cause you're stripping Goku from his power so how is it even Goku at this point...
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Well maybe it's not fair, but it makes sense.
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I can make sense of the opposite. Just not wasting my time. You can make sense out of anything if you're good enough at it.
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Edited by Astro4545: 7/1/2015 6:49:32 PMStill there is absolutely no reason to expect there to be Ki in Destiny whatsoever.
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Good thing Kai isn't an energy source he uses. It's a technique. You don't even know what you're talking about.
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Maybe not, but apparently neither do you.
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Highly doubt that
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Really? Firstly SRED said Kai energy also and you didn't say anything to him. Secondly, I meant to use Ki.
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Dude you're dumb ki is living energy, seeing as he makes a giant ball of it to kill buu and it comes from humans. Anyone who throws out the "well ki might not exist.." argument just doesn't want to lose
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No, Ki exits in DBZ it might not exist in Destiny.
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That's like saying life force exists in dbz but doesn't exist in destiny. Last I checked "universe" meant one universe there big guy. Lol you need to read up on what ki is if you think destiny wouldn't have it we guardians use light which is..for all intents and purposes, ki
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And light exists in three separate variants. Plus the Darkness works similar to the light.
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Ok you've done nothing to refute that ki exists other than saying that it can be used for multiple things. As long as things are alive and have a life force flowing through them, they have ki, just bc the guardians shape.it into arc solar and void energy doesn't mean thy don't draw from the same source
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Edited by Astro4545: 7/2/2015 1:44:20 PMYou're right Ki does exist, it exists as Light/Darkness but the light has three different aspects which can only be wielded separately. Now as others have suggested Gokus powers use several of the aspects at once. so he is now forced to use one aspect separate of the others, which he cannot; at least straight away. Plus he would then be constrained to using one the 9 subclasses as the Light in Destiny apparently only works in these ways.(or our Guardians aren't very creative.) Also I never once said they don't draw it from the same source, just that it can only be wielded separate from each other.
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Lol you're just making up arguments now, who says he can't use them all? Or that he would need to fit into a subclass, that's a game mechanic lol. The dude has a technique literally called solar flare. And then shoots waves of what would amount to extremely powerful arc damage. It's hard to say he would fit far outside any of the subclasses
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The game says he can't, your class determines your subclasses. He's invading Destiny's universe so he has to confirm to the rules of the Universe.
