VoG and CE weapons are a chance also, the only reason people still use then is because the elemental burn, Bungie made a mistake by putting all the new elemental weapons in ToO, and keeping the PoE ones RNG, and because of that is why the scout rifle is a good choice, VoG or CE weapons don't have fallen burn, this does, and its easier to get, so for people who don't run ToO or the raids, it's the best option right now.