I think we can all agree, well besides the people that use the weapon, that thorn NEEDS A NERF! I mean its ridiculous, I cant even play pvp anymore because im to scared to even try to attack anyone because i know as soon as they get that first shot im at like no health. And when i do try to kill people that are using thorn the best i can do is we both die. I use red death and it still cant heal me fast enough because by the time i kill them they have killed me. Im just really annoyed that for me to play a match of iron banner i need to get on the thron bandwagon. And if you see 2 thorn users, Oh man are you in for it. Your basically going to get one shotted because there both going to shoot at the same time and 2 thorn shots and your dead. Also if you think im terrible which im not, you can checck out some of my destiny videos on my youtube or just check my destiny tracker. I deleted my main which had my best crucible stats, just so you know.