I do agree that people should wait and see what they're getting before blindly pre - ordering. That being said, there's a lot of people out there that thoroughly enjoy the game and don't give a shit about the "problems" or "lies" that others complain about. With regards to the HoW raid, the only official thing I ever saw from Bungie that remotely mentioned a raid was on an email dated 23/09/14 where it makes reference to each expansion having a raid. Given that email was sent before the majority of the player base even set foot in a raid and 3 moths before the failure that was Crota then I wouldn't consider it to be relevant. That's my take on it anyway