Nerf this.. nerf that... yada yada yada.. but stop where? Why not make everything vanilla in PVP then.. can't use any earned gear.. only one class, one load out and gear.. then maybe everything with finally be "equal" and those asking to nerf everything will be happy. Otherwise.. isn't the point of gathering gear, figuring out what works for you and what doesn't part of the game? I just don't get it.. you are going to run into people that at times are better or outplayed you... superior gear or not. Not a huge PVP fan.. a scrub trying to get better.. but I don't see the thorn or fatebringer being the reason I am inconsistent.. I see the competition mostly.. followed by lag and inconsistent hit detection way ahead of weapon choice.