Forget all this bullshit about weapons being OP. It's a cylce that just won't stop. You nerf a gun, not long after people are complaining about another. One way to make ToO or any competitive mode fair: Make it transparent. Let us use strategy and thought to play. Before the game starts, or even each round, each player/team picks there loadouts and perks, and that STICKS! Each team can see there enemies loadout 10 /15 seconds before the round starts. Competitive play always has restrictions in place. That won't work in Destiny. It's boring and not a style for the masses. But making it all transparent before the game starts would stop the crying. It would enable teams to level the playing field when they come up against a full team of thorn users or final round spears. What is definitely not fair in competitive play is going up against a team that have equipped guns they don't plan on using, and then switching when the game starts. Certain guns and perks could be considered OP, but having it in a way where each team knows what they're up against each game will make it fair. You're put against a full team of Spears with final round? Counter it! Bungie, you've gone to a lot of effort to balance guns. One gun will outclass one gun, but then another gun will counter that one etc etc etc. Let us go in with the blindfold off.