Thorn is OP Best gun by far Unbalenced Two shot kill Unprofessional Noob gun/new play gun Godly in pro play hands Nuff said. I cannot agree thorn (and TLW) is Destiny's kryptonite for pvp. Honestly the only reason I use thorn is bc its OP do I like it ya do I think its fair no but just because its OP and I use it should it stay the way it is? Bump it up by one bullet and lower the range and falloff. The way it is now its better than all snipers, hcs, autorifles, pulse rifles, scout rifles, and so on. If thorn went shot for shot(headshots) with every primary-thorn would get every kill besides 1 or 2 and everyone knows that weapon bc you can be good or bad with it(no land beyond). Put thorn against everysingle machine guns thorn wins flawless victory. Machine guns 3-4 headshots to kill. TLW is 50/50 with the luck in the chamber to getting bonus damage when adsing is broken but it definitely lacks range so up close its a 1-3 headshot kill which is a tadbit OP but not as OP as thorn. In order to balance guns in every shooter players need to speak up for balence. In order to have fun you need competition. In order to have competition you need balance. Its a big circle not rocket science.