As much as try to keep doing it. The PVE only crowd is too vast, it's like trying to argue with a hive of bees, and they all suffer from argumentum ad populum. I'm not hear to tell anyone [i]how[/i] to play this game. But I sure as hell won't put up with ill-informed ignorance. All of their PVP input is clouded by their PVE prejudice. Anyone who knows what I know, need to step their forum game up. Bungie needs to know. Everyone who knows the truth has to post for us to make any difference.