said it before and I'll say it again, No guns should be Nerfed, if you cannot beat it then use it, I've got a thorn and don't use it in pvp because its not my style, so what if someone kills quicker with it, it just means that when they use anything else they'd suck, so keep in mind as 1 person says I am a pro in pvp, ask them what gun do they use the most and challenge them when private matches comes out without that gun.