I think the big issue here is all the ones saying that the thorn needs nerf are the ones that don't have it, let's be honest to actually get it you have to be good at pvp in the first place so once you have got it you were already good at pvp and the ones crying about you using it were actually not that good at pvp in the first place hence not owning their own Thorns. I think what we really have with all these nerf post is a lot of very jealous crybaby kids who are garbage at pvp and will never be able to get the scores to own their own thorn so they don't want you to have it either. And no I don't own one I am rubbish at pvp but rather than come on here crying that I was killed with whatever weapon a player chooses to use I just act like a man and go do something I'm better at because in the end men don't cry or whine or run telling tales, no they man up and do something else.