I agree, I have a thorn. I used it when i was really bad at crucible. I got better and thorn has moved to my vault as a memory. I slaughter most thorn users with pretty much any weapon i use. If i die and i see they used a thorn i dont scream about it being op. I usually chock it up to being outplayed, lag, or son of a bitch snuck up on me moments. The only real op weapons in this game are the ones someone better than you is using.