4real? Man the beta was the shit bro. My fave game and it wasn't even a full game! Why didn't you like it? My friend hated it but he also spent a match getting his ass kicked cause he couldn't figure out how to clamber and had the auto stabilizers on. [spoiler]a custom games set up probably would have please many many people [/spoiler] Its all good though. We all got an opinion. But yea....I wouldn't want bungie on halo anymore really. dev name doesn't matter but judging from their current game...I'd really hate to see halo lose the shield role in halo and see other shit like overkills at the press of the bumpers 3 or more times a match etc etc. I feel bad like I let my friend down [spoiler]he wanted me to get back into the game[/spoiler]..but I just can't get into that game man. I gave it a last shot at least. The MP is a mess, pretty much ruins the whole game for me.