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6/3/2015 10:16:00 PM
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Feminism and Gender (Intelligent Conversation)

The Bruce Jenner sensation brought me back to reading into where these ideals came from. If you do not know who Judith Butler is please leave. Many of you millennials talk about identity and feminism like it is going out of style and probably haven't read a word of what it is about. To start off I have never been in favor of Gender Identity or Feminism for several personal and philosophical reasons. But after thumbing through Butler's book [i]Gender Trouble[/i] I can see how it makes sense that one is born one way but perceives itself in another. Amencia explains that to be in conflict with one's identity violates any justification of one's self. From a pragmatic view a female is born with half of the reproductive organs necessary to procreate so regardless of how one "identifies" one must understand they were born with the basic structure for what society perceives as a woman. Butler states that a woman is "made" from cultural influence and pressure of what a female should do/dress/act. Following this logic Bruce Jenner believes he identifies as a woman yet does not have the basic structure (female sex) to fully realize his identity. To compensate he has taken the drastic change of conforming to societal perception of [i]what[/i] a woman (gender) is. Going back to Amencia's "Law of Identity" those that are "confused" are in conflict do not have an identity and do not have any justification of what or who they are. This is understandable and I can agree to that, however I do not believe one can change their identity without conflict and it goes against a state of nature we do not yet understand. Bruce was raised as a male and became a man and will always be a man regardless of how he dresses acts or looks. He was born with the basic structure and essence of a male and can act and look like a woman all he wants but in the grand scheme of the universe he is just a conflicted confused person. Response must be answered using the Socratic Method. If you are to argue in favor/against what a "woman" "gender" Female/male" is please define its essence. Pro Tip: you probably cant because several people far more intelligent than you have yet to uncover the "pure essence of existence"

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  • Of course you are and always will be either male or female in the sense that youre born with either one part or another. I think the issues with all this silly nonsense occur with society. People with certain parts are expected to act and say and like different things than people with different parts. Which doesnt make much sense to me... What does having a weiner have to do with liking the color blue? Anyhow, if that were to disappear and people were allowed to do and say and like whatever they want, despite what parts they have, I imagine the desire to have a sex change would dramatically lower or maybe even disappear. Since you are no longer defined by what parts you have, what reason would you have to want change them? Have nothing against people that have sex changes, though. Go for it. But I think its kind of avoiding the real issue(s). Or tip-toeing around them.

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