[quote]Thorn is so OP everyone has one! So here it's the solution, [b][u]NERF[/u][/b] Thorn! That's all we gotta do to get rid of all these people in ToO which are unbelievable amounts of them! That will show them to play better and finally "get good" or at least make DoT have a short timer than it already has. [b]Suggested idea for Thorn[/b]: Reduce mag to it's original mag (6 bullets) and make reload slower (+1.36 seconds to reload). Fatebringer is OP on PvE and Crucible, that means it should be nerfed. Change the perk "Explosive Rounds" to one that adds a better reload and "Firefly" to "Luck in the Chamber", that'll make the Fatebringer a bit bad but still useful. On Crucible these "Explosive Rounds" have too much damage so that's why it should be changed to a quick reload perk and everything will be easily balanced. But what about the Gjallarhorn? The most seeked weapon in game but the easiest to get, it's so useful that it can't be on everyone's hands so to brought an end to this we should change it. What about this "Wolfpack Rounds" perk? Pretty OP as I have seen, so let's change it's amount of 10 wolfpack rounds to only 3, this will balance the damage and make it stable. Is this gun OP in Crucible? No, it isn't so here it should keep it's 10 Wolfpack rounds. And talking about nerfs, we haven't reviewed the Felwinter's Lie. OP at medium range A.K.A "The Sniper" hah, should this be nerfed too? Of course yes! This "shotgun" should be nerfed, it works like a shotgun but shoots like a sniper, this is not normal so this needs to be balanced too. I just want to acquire a balance between weapons. The No Land Beyond or A.K.A "NLB" is amazingly OP, so to put a finish to this they should add more recoil and a slower reload (+1.20 seconds), this should put a end to this OP weapon. But the god of auto rifles...the Necrochasm A.K.A "Soul eater", this gun is the Ray Gun of the Crucible, impossible to surpass...what they can do to fix this gun is to reduce it's impact by a half and it's stability by 75%, that will balance it. And the good ol' auto rifles that got nerfed way too hard, what do we need for them? A buff, a little buff that makes it balanced, which is from the -1.75 impact that every auto rifle lost, they should add .50/60/75 of it's new impact, this will make them balanced and they'll regain an use into a player's inventory. [b]NOTE[/b]: That buff doesn't apply to the Necrochasm, that gun is way too OP. [b]Suggested idea[/b]: Make every gun a one shot kill so it's balanced. [b]Suggested idea 2[/b]: Make the game melee only. [b]Suggested idea 3[/b]: Microtransactions that makes Thorn a 1 hit kill. [spoiler]What did you just said about me, you little maggot? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Desticle Army, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on #Destiny, and I have over 300,000 confirmed kills. I am trained in Desticle warfare and I’m the top rustler in the entire Rustling forces. You are nothing to me but just another jimmy. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, maggot. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across B.net and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re bucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Rustling forces and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your bucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re bucking dead, kiddo. [/spoiler][/quote] This guy is a idiot......the sweetest guns to use in the game......the ones we worked so hard for and he wants to nerfing them cuz he can't get them cuz he's a bad player....I can tell by his tone in this message y no one would wanna play with him