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Edited by JustOnePepsi: 6/1/2015 4:06:26 PM
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Bungie doesn't understand how firearms work.

Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous. I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."? This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly. http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...) http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png And most Destiny revolvers are like this. http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress. It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version. http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers. So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs. *sigh* http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys! And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw. http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why? Maybe Scout Rifles will be better? I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb. http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie! inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense... EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same. To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else... http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv

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  • I thought I was the only one...

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  • Venus looks pretty habitable.... In the game. Come on Bungie! The real Venus is 800 degrees and covered with stinky sulphur clouds. Get gud you scrubby mcnoobersons!

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    • Wait...let me get this straight...you are complaining about the guns, in a game where people can: -come back to life after being shot -you can float in the air -you can jump 10+ feet up into the air -you can pull a gun that is on fire out of nowhere and literally disintegrate people with it -you can create a shield out of nothing that stops bullets, but people can still move in and out of it -you can slam the ground and make lightning -throw fireballs from your hands -guns that can heal you when you shoot someone And a shit ton of other things. In other words, pretty much everything in this games makes no damn sense. But feel free to continue complaining about the guns.

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      • They don't shoot bullets, the weapons actually shoot light. But I hear you, it bugs the hell out of me too.

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      • http://www.defensereview.com/chiappa-rhino-6-shot-357-magnum-revolver-for-concealed-carry-ccw-applications/ one of several obvious inspirations... But the bottom line is, they are clearly energy weapons... Why doesn't the Scout rifle magazine bother you? Or the Fusion rifles! Don't get me started on those... I mean really, the inverse plasma coils would barbeque your hands if energy was allowed collect *outside* the condensers in a frequency visible to the naked eye! ...and how the hell does my pointy robot's ears fit into that skinyass warlock helmet?!

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        • It is a video game for christ sake it is not meant to be realistic and be exactly as how it would be in the real world. you are taking things way out of proportion with this stupid rant of yours. just because you think it should be a set way does not mean the video game developers ever have to make it be that way just to make you happy ever.

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          • The absolute best is the 4th horseman. 4 barrels but holds 5 shells Ancient looking blunderbuss thing, but full auto Randomly has a pump

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            • Titan like big explosion. Titan like when gun make big explosion. Titan no understand why gun make big explosion. That ok with Titan.

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            • All i have to say is [spoiler]traveller did it[/spoiler]

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              • Complaining about how unrealistic the guns are in a futuristic space shooter. Epic

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              • I'm glad it bothers you bc no one else cares so you alone are suffering while everyone else shoots aliens and enjoys themselves

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                • You've never seen the round that thorn shoots, huh? Well let me tell you... [spoiler]That bullet is bigger than the gun itself![/spoiler]

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                  • You do realize that there is a type of revolver that does in fact sit on the bottom and not the top, right? I forget the name but it does in fact exist and function.it is rarer to see them but they exist. Google it.

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                  • You're using energy weapons in destiny is how I always justified it.

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                  • OP that is such a good story. I really can't pick "one part" that I liked the best. But if you were to hold a gun to my head, I would go with the part with the pictures. I just got off the phone with an armored truck company. They will be arriving in the morning to pick up my back up disk, which I just saved your story on to. There probably won't be much traffic, because I forwarded the police your story, and they agreed to escort the armored truck to its destination. At first the police chief didn't want to help, but then I guided his attention to the incredible pictures that you embedded along with your story. I mean, the story was good enough. But as soon as I saw the pictures that went along with it, I called my grandmother, who is blind and has Alzheimer’s disease to tell her. As far as her doctors in the nursing home are concerned, she is cured of all her ailments now that she heard your cool story. She is actually preparing to run the Boston marathon this year now. Thank you OP.

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                    • Bungie needs more people like you on their team. The game would have been so much better.

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                    • I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain

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                    • It's the future we do what we want. ".....welcome to the new age, to the new age........"

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                      • I didn't even need to watch the video for I know how those turrets work.

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                      • Please buy a real world hand cannon and test the performance of it against any of the following: - Mutated monsters from another dimension - Intergalactic pirates - Terra-forming space faring military - Murderous robots I'd be interested to hear the results. [spoiler]applying logic to fantasy is folly[/spoiler]

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                        • It's not our fault you can't tell the difference between reality and a video game.

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                          • In guessing they don't get that this is a VIDEOGAME with FICTIONAL characters , who cares

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                            • The chiappa rhino has a gear system for the hammer which is lined up with the lower cylinder but ther is a cocking "hammer" up top.

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                            • When it doesn't have to actually work, aesthetics take precedent over false functionality.

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                            • Who cares its a game. Remember how stupid halo weapons were? Im about to get a lot of hate. I played halo and the weapons design made no sense but a couple did.

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                            • Its an HMG not an LMG

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