All right Guardians I'm going to do my best at explaining what I know about the Nine, but let me be clear first that in no way is this gospel. I am just doing the best I can at piecing together the little info we have on The Nine. I encourage all to question what I will write, and I hope to see some other theories from other guardians as well. So here we go. From the Ghost Fragment on the Queen of the Reef we know that The Reef, and the Nine do have interactions, and their relations are a bit shaky. I would also assume that if the Queen would just give The Nine Skolas the former Kell of the House of Wolves that The Nine seem to have the upper hand over the Reef. Obviously Xur says many things about The Nine, and I will list some of the better ones: "I am only an agent, The Nine rule beyond the Jovians". "If I am here it is The Nine who sent me". "My function is to trade I know this". "I do not entirely control my movements". "My will is not my own". "It is my will to speak to you". The Nine wish to speak to you". "I understood my mission when The Nine put it in me, but now I cannot articulate it". "When my mission here is done. The Nine will send for me". "Bodies come and go, but the cells remember, and if they forget The Nine remember it for us". "An end will come, we will be there" "The Awoken did not have a choice. We did". "We came up from the dust, and burrowed into flesh for warmth, and became something new". "We saw the colony fail. Not knowing what we saw" "But it was The Nine who gave us purpose, and its The Nine who keep us whole". "It is very possible, that The Nine intend to help humanity". "I cannot explain what The Nine are. They are very large. I cannot explain. This fault is mine not yours". The Speaker also states: "If only The Nine would help". So this implies that The Speaker knows of The Nines existence, and to some degree their power. Now the bread and butter on info of The Nine. Ghost Fragment: Legends 2 [spoiler]The Nine are survivors of the cis-Jovian colonies who made a compact with an alien force to ensure their own survival. The Nine are deep-orbit warminds who weathered the Collapse in hardened stealth platforms. The Nine are ancient leviathan intelligences from the seas of Europa or the hydrocarbon pits of Titan. The Nine arrived in a mysterious transmission from the direction of the Corona-Borealis supercluster. The Nine are the firstborn Awoken and their minds now race down the field lines of the Jupiter-Io flux tube. The Nine are Ghosts who pierced the Deep Black without a ship and meditated on the hissing silence of the heliopause. The Nine are the aspects of the Darkness, broken by the Traveler's rebuke, working to destroy us from within. The Nine is a viral language of pure meaning. The Nine are the shadows left by the annihilation of a transcendent shape, burned into the weft of what is. [/spoiler] A lot of this card seems to contradict what we understand in the game. Hell a lot of this card seems to contradict itself. This was the hardest part for me while putting this Theory together, but this is what I have: The Nine are the mysterious transmission from the Corona Borealis super cluster. This transmission isn't just simple radio waves. It is the viral language of pure meaning. This transmission can control anything picking up on it. All the way down to a single cell (this is why Xurs will is not his own). The Jupiter Lo flux tube picks up and amplifies this transmission that is why the Jovians have been altered by The Nine. They were closer to this transmission, and it was more powerful by them. Any Jovians that picked up on this transmission were willed by it to do what was needed to survive the collapse. This is why Xur states the Awoken had a choice, but the Jovians did not. Other things have picked up on this transmission such as: Ghosts in the Deep Black meditating in heliopause, deep orbit warminds that weathered the collapse in hardened stealth platforms (The warminds may have done this because the transmission instructed them to), and aspects of the darkness have picked up on this transmission as well. So sadly not everything that that is at the will of The Nine is on our side. Now just a side note: In the Warlock Ghost Fragment the Warlock in the story seems to be having a hard time with maintaining his personality. Almost like something is bending his will. That Warlock had an Ahamkara spine on his person. Loosing control of his will almost the same way Xur claims that his will and actions are not his own. This would also help explain the paragraph in The Nine Grimoire card saying that The Nine are ancient leviathan intelligences. That perhaps if The Nine choose to take a physical form they choose an Ahamkara. However this is a big stretch. This is all I can give you readers of mine, so please discuss.