Check the entire forum before making a statement. A post goes up every five minutes asking for diff guns to be nerfed. Shotguns, vex, snipers, the list is endless. People even ask for supers to be nerfed. Look ur entitled to ur opinion and i respect that, u dont like thorn or whatever. Heres the facts... 1. Exotic weapons are supposed to be amazing and OP or else wed be able to use 1 in each slot simultaneously 2. Thorn damage comes with its own little warning, ur screen goes green (i believe, i am colour blind...) which is ur heads up to run and hide 3. 2 headshots against a fast moving player IS skillfull 4. There are far more devastating weapons for pvp - Invective, Vex, Fellwinter, Icebreaker, Patience and Time and more 5. Crucible is a challenging environment and is supposed to be, so being killed by thorn is just something else we have to adapt to If a player who is known by the community to be one of the best comes out and makes an argument that doesnt involve showing frustration at being killed easily by an OP weapon, with technical reasons as to why the gun should be nerfed, then id be more than happy to listen and debate. So far though all ive seen are pointless damage comparisons (every gun is different) and whining about getting killed a lot. You can have the last word now if u like, im tired, its 1.15 am and im goin 2 bed. Goodnight