i disagree, while Thorn indeed is strong, it's nowhere near being OP, but anyways, we would first have to define what OP is to be able to continue, and i certainly do not want to start that kind of discussion what i wanted to tell you was - you mention (i will quote, to avoid confusion): [quote]This gun can put the best crucible player to the ground with [b]2 headshots[/b]. This gun [b]IS overpowered[/b]...[/quote] followed by: [quote]A simple stability or range nerf should suffice.[/quote] ...now, please explain to me HOW exactly a 'simple range nerf' would make Thorn NOT kill in the same 2 shots? yes, i would agree that the range on this thing might be bit too much, HOWEVER, if one can hit your head across the map with Thorn, they deserve to outshoot you even if you were using Sniper Rifle