I don't use thorn. I kill people with thorn. Problem? Nope, I'm just not garbage and don't have to blame bad play on a gun. Just some fyi, Vex > Thorn Red Death > Thorn TLW > Thorn Three Little Words > Thorn Strangers Rifle > Thorn If you blame thorn then quite simply, you just suck at this game. Id even be willing to bet you people complaining run a shotgun in secondary as well.