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5/4/2015 3:32:21 PM
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The Thorn is not OP. Plenty of other hand cannons put players down in 2 head shots. Calm down dear.
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Please, put the list down that kill in 2 headshots. No buffs, no conditions, no luck. Just 2 headshots. I'm sure there are plenty, I'm not defending this guy but come on.... You can't be that stubborn
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Mate there seriously plenty of hand cannons that can do that. Your miffed because they use Thorn to one headshot and one bodyshot you and let the poison finish you off. Red death is faster at killing, amongst others. Just gotta learn to wreck with a weapon of your own. Do you have a Thorn?
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almost all of the blue level crucible handcannons can two shot... Also Timurs lash... Oh and Hawkmoon. Do just a small amount of research...
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They simply don't, not without meeting side requirements. Hawk you need to get lucky. Timurs lash, you'd need the crowd control or weapon of light, same goes for blue hand cannons. I know what I'm talking about, perhaps you don't?
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Lol so sorry... I didn't know that we couldn't compare viable weapons and popular rolls for crucible weapons. Seeing it now you posed an unanswerable questions for other handcannons to make yourself look brilliant.. In reality though, you look foolish as you chose to exclude the very thing that makes RNG so useful.. Once again. These weapons stand as viable alternatives just for HC, and there are multiple other weapons with two shot kills or even higher TTK... Sorry bud, you stand on shaky footing when putting biased parameters on your question.
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Edited by JetSetRadio: 5/4/2015 4:53:30 PMIf anything include Hawkmoon, sure. That's fine. But the others don't 2 shot without other factors playing a part. I'm not asking for possibilitys, I'm asking what guns 2 shot. Thorn is a 2 shot kill no gimmicks. He made a claim plenty of guns(hand cannons) two shot on a regular basis when that is truly not the case in most crucible matches. I've yet to be two shot by anything other than Hawkmoon and thorn. Edit:last word
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Once again... You toss out viable alternative that answer both yours and his question. They defy your petty parameters, but that doesn't change their effectiveness.. [spoiler]red death, strangers rifle, bad juju & three little words all two shot as well... Also better TTK with 2 headshots on the thorn with burn. These aren't HCs but they still 2 shot[/spoiler]
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Edited by JetSetRadio: 5/4/2015 5:13:49 PMThe main issue isn't me, it's the fact that you don't like my parameters. I asked for hand cannons that 2 shot, not "oh but if you do this and this and that THEN it two shots... Yeah!" Also bad juju isn't a two burst kill. Edit: pretty sure it's the same for strangers due to the high fire rate and low impact.
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Lol... They are both two bursts, just tested bad last night. (Though it was IB so that may make a difference I guess) strangers is two shot regardless Also your parameters make the question unanswerable, thus a terrible question... I gave you answers that were to a more answerable question but one that still goes along with your premise.
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This turned into wasted time cause of me. Sorry about that. Stubbornness makes arguments hard. All I wanted to get across was there aren't really hand cannons that 2 shot as effectively as thorn. Claiming most can is a loose statement. (Tho I doubt he intended it to be anything more) Really strangers is a 2 burst tho?
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Meh it's whatever, we are in a forum thus you are entitled to be stubborn (hence why I like it so much lol) Yeah in standard crucible I know stranger's can two burst from quite a long range even... Bad juju I do need to test in standard crucible, because it may be effected by the defense levels etc in IB..
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Thorn 2 shot kills with its DoT not without, therefore your argument is counter intuitive..
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I see what you are saying and I'm not going to be stubborn. My original comment was more of a "easier said than done". This has gone off into pointless debate. And I'm the one that took it there. Just trying to stress there aren't many that can two shot like thorn does.
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Sure, but there is a primary or two that can 1 shot you if youre good enough. And im not including hawkmoon
