In order for something to be OP, it needs to be alone at the top. TLW can kill faster than Thorn. Hawkmoon can kill faster than Thorn Red Death can kill just as fast as Thorn (and acts as a fairly reliable counter to it) There are a few others that need not be mentioned with equal or faster TTK's. If there are a majority of people using it, then use something that stops it in it's tracks. If you're too set in your ways to use something else, then the fault lies with you. It's not me flaming you, either. I'm just tired of hearing/seeing "Nerf" thrown around when it's not necessary. The original Vex was OP. As of now, nothing is.