I don't play much PVP but, started playing the IB a little this week. I don't find the thorn to be any more OP than any other weapon. I experimented with plenty of guns this past weekend since I don't ever play pvp. I used the thorn, hawkmoon, MIDA, suros, TLW, red death, and even tried the vex. The handcannons for the most part, including thorn, took at least 3 rounds to kill. I landed several headshots on players in a row before they died so I don't think it was an OP monster but, it was nice for the poison to do a little extra damage while they were behind cover. The rifles all took multiple shots to take a player down. The only weapon that I found truly op was the IB shotgun. That is a sniper with shotgun ammo. The other thing that I found truly ridiculous was how people could out jump a super or couldn't kill a blade dancer or warlock using radiance. They took ridiculous amounts of damage and still managed to kill you before dying. Minus some people using lag switches or "lag to their advantage" and a few that had a super the entire game it wasn't that much different than any other PVP game I have ever played.