Ok I grinded for thorn and at the time I blew @ss at crucible. But I grinded for it anyways got a little better and got the bounty done. I like this gun, it has an exotic feel to it and for me at least, I don't feel it's OP at all. That being said during this last week of IB, while I was matched with a game inprogress and the team was loosing I decided to give the last word a try. I had had if for a very long time. Using it then and giving it a try made perfect sense seeing as the score was just ridiculous anyways. That being said, once I got the hang of using it I find myself usin the last word now and leaving my thorn at home. TLW while being used correctly is just insane damage. Signed, A reformed Thorn user