Thorn may be a bit OP, but it is an exotic for a reason and hard to get imo. Bad players will benefit, sure, but only a bit. TLW and Red Death are great to use also and some may find those OP too. Love all three btw. Even if you would nerf the crap out of these guns you will still not have a balanced crucible. Supers, heavies, nades, ammo, lag, spawns, maps, pulse rifles you name it. There's always something. I hated shotguns far more than these primaries and I love how the special ammo flow is right now and heavy could maybe show up less or give less. Other than that the crucible is fine by me.