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Edited by MariusJ:
11/27/2015 11:27:01 AM
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To all those 'thorn is not OP' posts.
You guys always say its not the gun, but its the player's fault. I disagree. This gun can put the best crucible player to the ground with 2 headshots. This gun IS overpowered and you thorners just don't want it nerfed.
If you want to flame me for not being good in crucible, go ahead. Idc, my skill is higher than yours anyway. I still have to see an flamer with a higher kd here...
Edit: all these scrubs flaming don't want their thorn nerfed.... ;)
Edit: most of you guys could only whine about 'lucky' headshots, so i changed that.
Yet another Edit: i'm not saying that the thorn owns me, i outgun them 80% of the time. But that doesn't take away the fact that its too powerful. A simple stability or range nerf should suffice.
Again, Edit: wow how has this reached 500+ replies? I'm truly honored by all you flaming bastards who just keep flaming. For those who agree with me, thank you :)
Edit: going straight for the 1000 replies! Please keep flaming or replying! Thank you in advance, i am calling it the night for now.
Edit: just made the 1000 replies in [b]1 DAY[/b] thanks to all the flamers and other people! Really appreciate it!
Edit: Damn this post has been bashed on. The hate is real! I'm just putting down my opinion and some facts, get over it. Also, my skill actually has nothing to do with the stats of the thorn, its crazy right?
Edit: post just hit 1500+
Thats all. Nuff said.
Check out Tiny Baby Jesus's reply, it sums up the thorn.
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2 RepliesThese guys are scrubs and can't use any other gun
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3 RepliesThorn not op enough please buff
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3 RepliesIf user dies DoT stops. That's all it needs
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Took my Warlock into IB for the first time yesterday. Decided she needed that gear. 7 1/2 hours later....helm and robe look sweet!!!!! Had a few matches where every single guardian had Thorn.....it was awesome!!!!!!
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People need to think simpler a adjustment to the rate of fire to match the hawkmoon would balance the gun.
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2 RepliesWell thorn does have a counter : The glorious, super stable , Health Regenerating [b]Red Death[/b]
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Nerf air, air is way OP.
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The last word needs to be nerfed Hawkmoon needs to be nerfed Felwinter's sniper needs to be nerfed Vex needs to be buffed *uuuuuugh* [b]god damn salty posts take up these forums XD[/b]
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I dont really have a problem with it, I just wish they would sort out the headshot bounty so I can use the mythoclast.
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2 RepliesI don't actually think that thorn is overpowered. I never use it in PvP because quite frankly, I'm horrible in PvP regardless of what gun I choose to use that day. I have a Thorn and I hate using it because people look down on it so much so if I use it, I must be a scrub in people's eyes
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5 RepliesHow do u get thorn? Not a hand cannon man but willing to give thorn a go!
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I get outgunned easily by vex mythoclast while using thorn. I find the vex much more op than the thorn. But that is not a complaint. Probably just a more skilled player
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1 ReplyI get out Thorned with my Thorn I also out Thorn other people there's plenty of ways to counter it find a gun that you like to use and stick to it and work on your strategies to out Thorn people
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2 RepliesEdited by A K: 5/5/2015 9:26:26 AMi disagree, while Thorn indeed is strong, it's nowhere near being OP, but anyways, we would first have to define what OP is to be able to continue, and i certainly do not want to start that kind of discussion what i wanted to tell you was - you mention (i will quote, to avoid confusion): [quote]This gun can put the best crucible player to the ground with [b]2 headshots[/b]. This gun [b]IS overpowered[/b]...[/quote] followed by: [quote]A simple stability or range nerf should suffice.[/quote] ...now, please explain to me HOW exactly a 'simple range nerf' would make Thorn NOT kill in the same 2 shots? yes, i would agree that the range on this thing might be bit too much, HOWEVER, if one can hit your head across the map with Thorn, they deserve to outshoot you even if you were using Sniper Rifle
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I've never had much difficulty with it, but I think it could be solved by making that dot just a little less. Maybe 3 per tick instead of seven. Or make the ticks less frequent. Like seven every two or three seconds rather than the second or so it seems now. I don't personally think any weapon is really op as I've found ways to counter them and I'm pretty Damn bad at crucible.
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1 ReplyI don't have thorn, I have rank 5 IB, and I disagree with you; thorn is fine how it is.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/119468083/0/0
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5 RepliesEdited by Rom: 5/5/2015 9:18:46 AMOP's logic. >it's op and u r mad if you say otherwise. TLW kills faster than Thorn. Why don't you complain about that?
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5 RepliesI don't have Thorn and still don't think it should be nerfed. [spoiler]but that's just my opinion bro[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesThe only thing thorn needs is a mag size reduction back to 6 then it will still be top tier but completely balanced.
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2 RepliesI don't think thorn is more OP than the other 3 or 4 OP guns out there. And if you are a good player you should have at least one of those. Thorn and Vex are the only ones that actually take skill to get so I say leave them be. .....and buff auto rifles a smidge.
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1 ReplyI despise thorn, but it's not overpowered. It's just very strong in the current meta. In an rpg-esque game without normalization of weapons/perks, the pvp is always going to be unbalanced. There will always be a weapon archetype that is more effective then the others. It's just simply not realistic to expect weapons with all different rates of fire, impact, and perks to have the same time to kill. So you can either use the various other weapons against thorn and rely on superior gun skill to carry you through fights, or you can run thorn, as it is very easy to use effectively in its current iteration. Complaining about it is just going to end with a new crucible balancing update that replaces thorn with something else.
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From my experience; Hawkmoon 60% kills in 2 headshot + 1 body 35% kills in 2 headshots 05% kills in 1 headshot Thorn 100% never kills regardless of headshots as someone always gets a hit in before the lingering damage kills
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4 RepliesDon't care what happens to hand cannons. Never used one, never will. And to those in pvp complaining; just play better.
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3 RepliesCopypaste I'd say remove the burn after the wielder dies, and maybe lower the stability. Maybe. People shouldn't be able to score a kill after they've already died = were outgunned.
