[quote] But you're attacking enemies that have no way to attack back. Kind of the definition of a cheese.[/quote] this is not a cheese , it is the definition of a sniper. the Barrett .50 is supposed to be able to hit target at 2K. pretty sure those cliffs are within 500 meters of the door

That's the difference between RL and a video game brah. RL, targets scatter after 1 shot. Let's not confuse the two.

Is that not what sniping is all about? I agree with above; sniping is not cheesing!

Have you ever been hunting? Have you ever used a high powered rifle and shot a target from a great distance? Do you UNDERSTAND what sniping is? I thought not? Get off the "cheesing train." You are on the WRONG side of Console Gaming history. Do some research before you input your OPINION as facts. Bungie and you are wrong!!!!

It's a video game. If you ran snipers like real life you'd never get shot at once. Doesn't work, sorry bro. Snipers can have the longest range, but the mobs need to be able to shoot you back. Otherwise it's just broken mechanics.

Says you and you are COMPLETELY wrong. Snipers by their definition get you OUT OF the firefight. Only Snipers or heavy artillery, etc. can reach other Snipers generally in war. You will argue however for arguments sake until the cows come home. Truth doesn't matter.. only Bungie and their game you will defend. I'm speaking from experience with guns and even more importantly, from games. I have played and finished over 4,000 games, own 5,560 games and 183 consoles, and have been intricately involved in Video Games since Atari Pong. My argument is from facts and experience and expertise. Yours is from your opinions. Which matters most?

Video games are meant to be challenging enemy's are meant to shot you back, if they don't it's broken game mechanics, bungie are well in there right to patch game mechanics if they think there broken and they have which they want people to play there game correctly and be rewarded for the effort they expended not glitch cheese or use cheap tactics to speed to rewards screens

AAAAH! THE NO PUNCTUATION, IT BURNS!

Haha I was typing with wet hands after the first line I gave up on punctuation

Wet hands? What were YOU doing? O.o

Haha nothing sinister, I swear :P. I'm a chef so I'm constantly washing my hands.I'm usually on the forums when I'm at work and it's a slow day and I can't seam to get my hands dry enough to use my phone properly, my auto correct is always going crazy as well

You are again stating your... OPINION. Yes it is Bungie's IP, but it doesn't mean that the practices they are doing are right, or are historically in line with what 99.9% of all developers have done before.

Yes my opinion and I'll happily use it to call your opinion ridiculous just because you've played old games where good mechanics where hard to implement, it's bungie a game they don't have to follow any rules or make shit 1990 style games because people want to shoot things without being shot at, if that's what you need to do for your ego or whatever go snipe thrall from a mile away in patrol just don't complain your not being rewarded for your skill less playstyle Name a game that's designed to be played in the way you mean ?

You just went WAY off tangent. The discussion here is whether or not exploits/cheats, etc. are legitimate, or that Bungie is right in "sanitizing" their game of said exploits. EVERY game is therefore susceptible to this debate whether it is Destiny, Super Mario Bros., or for ANY and all consoles throughout time. Halo is a PERFECT example of exploits that players ran WILD with. It created a Youtube sensation for Halo: CE and others after it, and made Halo MORE popular than it ever would have been without the exploits, tricks, out of map glitches, and SO much more. You have NO experience to speak of obviously, yet somehow you think that YOUR opinions and what you believe and know about video games is FAR superior to someone like myself, or anyone else for that matter that has more knowledge about and the history of Console video games. That is called arrogance and grand delusion. Here is a news flash. Facts MATTER. Experience MATTERS. Knowledge MATTERS. History MATTERS. You bring NONE of those things to the table. And by the way, while it is technically Bungie's game, GOOD developers and artists see their work as the CONSUMERS at least in experience, impression and passion. And lastly, games of the 90's as you state weren't broken UNLIKE Destiny. They were done RIGHT the first time (at least in the case of 95%), because the developers knew they couldn't just FIX their mistakes on launch day with a patch, or sometime afterward. They actually CARED what kind of games they put out and did it right the first time. The fact that games were exploited then, or now is just a testament to gamers love for... GAMES. That's something you need to learn and something you need to understand. But most likely, you never will because you think you... KNOW IT ALL!!! when you know nothing really.

Read your first paragraph, now the third.you keep contradicting your self