a.) I myself said so that "the arena" is most possible NOT a raid but a horde mode experience.. i was right AGAIN! b.) its not about raid or not raid, its about bungie inability to communicate and obviouc struggle to add a decent amount of content due to failures and mistakes in coding the engine ( see "GDC2015 Destiny" ) c.) i guess i am amongst the best informed here.. i am just not agreeing with the pace they show. and no im not gonna shut up, since if I and all the other that criticise bungie would do , you would have three buggy raids by now and counting.. so be glad i and other do .. =)