This is the same garbage that everyone has been saying for months. "Give them more time to get it right"... We did, and they didn't... Instead, they are releasing a "horde mode" in an "arena" which is literally the laziest possible thing that they could have done. We gave them MONTHS, and judging from what they have released, this DLC will be even worse than the one before it...

Are you going to be happy when you have to spend $20 more for the raid that should have been included in this dlc?

Has that been stated somewhere? After the Dark Below bungie has a lot to answer for. If HoW itself doesn't redress the issues I have with destiny then it's a moot point. Releasing a shoddy raid is certainly not a step in the right direction. If they have already stated that when the next raid comes out it will be a standalone dlc that we need to pay for then I believe that is the wrong choice on their part but I will have to weigh that opinion based on what else we get with HoW. But if you are just jumping to conclusions I don't see the point in getting riled up over speculation.

If you think Activision is going to give us free content, I have a lovely oceanside beach house available for purchase in Kansas.

Yeah, Activision is the devil. But If that is what you are basing your comments off of then nothing I say is going to matter. You have decided that you are going to be angry about something regardless of what the options are. If my options are another shitty dark below/crota's end or something different, right now my vote is for something different. Because if they half ass another raid and pretend it was worth the price of admission then I am gone, I'm not giving Bungie anymore money. If I hadn't foolishly purchased the expansion pass I probably wouldn't even be trying HoW until atleast a month after it's launch because of how much I disliked dark below. But that's a bell I can't unring. It is entirely possible that when the new raid comes out they are going to try and charge for it. And I agree with you that if that comes to pass it will be a bad move on their part and will drastically effect my decision of whether or not I will continue to support Bungie. But I'm not going to jump to that conclusion and run with it without something more tangible than "Activision."

I'm not trying to sound mean ferth and sorry if I came out snippy. Frustration is just beginning to boil over. I too bought the expansion and I will give wolves a chance. But there are thousands of people like me who were dying for a new raid and bungie knew it. House of wolves will have to be simply amazing since they just set a majority of their fan base on edge. If this doesn't turn out bungie can throw away their "ten year plan" because this franchise will be dead. They failed us on release and promised us better and more to look forward to, dark below gave us like 3 hours more of content, and now an announcement like this... Certain aspects of this game I truly love and 75% of those have to do with hanging out with 5 buddies and shooting the shit in game. The new content only allows me to do that with two other people. And that really is the biggest problem with this announcement. Do you know how excited many players were to jump into a fresh new raid on may 19th?