So if I take the experience of the dark below to form expectations about this next expansion now that there's no raid, which was the only think worth a -blam!- out of the whole dark below, then I'm looking at "endgame" that I'm able to complete in two hours, crappy exotics and endless pvp shoved down my throat. If my higher level gear is coming out of a pvp activity I'm gonna have to buckle down and go get the $12 that game stop will give me for the disc because there's no way I'm grinding on pvp, ever. Last time I ever buy a season pass that's for sure.