This ^^^ Not bragging here but this will add some context. I have had a Hawkmoon for a very long time. Damn fine Hand Cannon. I have Thorn and Last Word as well. I have 2 Timur's Lash. I recently got the Crucible Hand Cannon TFPKY 1969 (something like that). I am ranking that one up. It is fun to use. I had gotten a Venation after that, but did not have room for it and ended up breaking it down. I used to have a 300 version which I was happy with for a long time. I just got a Devil You Don't with explosive round perk. I am toying with that one to see if it has any redeeming value. My point, even though I have some which are considered "The Best", I still play around with what some people would call "Lesser" weapons as they also have alot of merit. The TFPKY 1969 has a great rate of fire and range and has become a permanent fixture for my Warlock. Enjoy your Venation.