For clarification by weakest, I would assume something like this:
Fastest average handcannon TTK: .7 seconds
Fastest average Scout Rifle TTK: .8 seconds
Fastest average Pulse Rifle TTK: .9 seconds
Fastest average Auto Rifle TTK: .95 seconds
This is just what I think that average should be, Exotics usually have a faster kill time than the average.
Right now, the average Auto Rifle TTK is about 1.05 seconds. By making the average to .95, the damage would be increased slightly, but not to where they were. For example, SUROS is doing 31-32 and prepatch was doing about 37. To make the kill time more fair, the damage should be about 33-34 per headshot (depending on ballistics). This might still seem low, but 34 per headshot is a 6-shot kill (what it was pre-patch) on all classes, while 33 per headshot is a 6 shot kill on Hunters only and 7 on Titans and Warlocks with high armor.
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Edited by Aiden985: 3/12/2015 11:05:22 AMMade up statistic is made up. Doesn't matter really its an auto weapon for a reason shouldn't trump other weapons as much as did, but I haven't played much since 1.1.1
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It didnt trump; it was just as good as any other. Just who uses them made difference. If i went my suros against a pocket infinity i can't garruntee i'd win pre patch or not
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Edited by That Zexi Guy: 3/12/2015 11:07:11 AMMy guesses were based off of hard evidence. Obviously you will find slightly different numbers if you do actual calculations, but I did mine at a glance. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7FV9l4hXo2tHD3XlFUp854XvJIwTKFIPvASLduPPS4/edit#gid=0 This is a collection of the TTKs of all the most used weapons in the game. So no, it's not a made up statistic.
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where is the proof you showed me a google doc of some guy posting numbers no hard evidence. Also still doesn't mean they need a buff since its dated info and the guy says they are estimates. Maybe you should read the doc before presenting it as a valid source.
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Last update was two weeks ago. What do you need proof for? I said I made guesses based on the information in the doc. The doc is more valid than anything you have to offer. Regardless, there is nothing I said that you can prove is wrong or outdated. I have a SUROS, so I can confirm all those numbers and the kill time. In fact, I have almost all the most used Crucible weapons in the game, so I can confirm everything in this doc. I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue or get at, but you can continue if you want, because everything I said was right, so I don't really know what your point is, besides what we already agreed upon (Autos shouldn't beat others if both players are accurate)
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Because the stuff you posted has no evidence backing them you think you so much just because you spout numbers.
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The stuff I posted, including the doc, is evidence. You can run a test yourself and find the same values that are written in the doc,
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How that doc doesn't even specify if it's a PVP or PVE study no equation shown no experiment and is doesn't even have anything that prove what was posted. Therefore invalidates it as a valid source