There is a difference between a destiny player and a causal. A causal doesn't look on the fourms. He just plays destiny to hang out with friends. The real players got to the fourms. Then there is the ones in neither. They aren't a destiny player because they aren't good enough. They aren't causals cause apparently most destiny players play for "80 hours a week". No they only need to use their time wisely. If you just used your times doing nightfall, you could get all exotic chances in 3 hours a week. [spoiler]and if you can't play for 3 hours a week then [b]YOU're[/b]casual [/spoiler]