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Edited by CrazyCanadianSAS:
5/7/2015 9:52:34 PM
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Rebalance Auto Rifles after 1.1.1 PVE Side, Need Support Guardians
85% think that Auto's need a buff, bungie hasn't acknowledged thousands of people. I'm doing what I can to keep up this thread.
THIS IS MORE PVE GEARED THAN ANYTHING ELSE BUFF NON GUARDIAN DAMAGE
[i][b]85% think Bungie messed up[/b][/i]
A Great Video Explaining the Negative Effects brought on by 1.1.1:
http://youtu.be/GMQ_f4NoNVc
Auto's will always be the most popular, people are familiar with them. That's how it goes.
It's not fair you ruin these weapons and make them unenjoyable just because they are popular.
Scouts will become next most popular then you'll nerf those. It's not right.
[b][u]Edit:[/u][/b] I believe pretty strongly in this, I love my Suros, Hardlight and Monte Carlo, sadly they don't live up to there names. Please bump if you agree, I want to have a shot at change (=
A thread in feedback as well
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105281905/0/0/1
Proving Bungie's Lie about 2.5%
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/104621102/0/0
Another Large Group of People Wanting this Changed
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/104799664/0/0
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/99656519/0/0
[b]Edit:[/b]
Option 1: [b]10,008[/b]
Option 2: [u]1602[/u]
Option 3: [i]2081[/i]
Over 10,000 votes requesting a buff. Lets go Bungie!
[b][i]Major Edit:[/i][/b] Appears some are too lazy to actually look at the thread showing the amount of nerf each weapon received, so I will post here, know that these are not my results but another supporter in the community.
Actual % of Nerf
Suros Regime: 14% (Impact Rating: 28)
HardLight: 6-9% dependent on first tree attachments (Impact Rating: 9)
Abyss Defiant: 6.3% (Impact Rating 8)
Monte Carlo: 6.3% (Impact Rating 8)
This is far off the "2.5%" released by Bungievision.
[b]Edit:[/b] Greatly appreciating all the support, this is the only way to get Bungie's attention and get our Auto's back! I'd like to invite any Bungie admin/mod/ninja/Deej to pass this on to devs. Need you guys.
Edited title to sound more professional.
[b]Please write bump, amount of replies has a direct correlation to Bungie paying attention[/b].
[b][i][u]4 out of 5 people agree Auto's need a buff[/u][/i][/b]
[b][i][u]10,000/11,500 people believe that Auto's need a buff, where is Bungie?[/u][/i][/b]
[b][i][u]85% of voters believe that Auto's need a buff, I'm suggesting a rehash of "WakeUpSony which took fire on Twitter, with "WakeUpBungie".[/u][/i][/b]
First WakeUpBungie thread located in Feedback:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105493526/0/0
Another WakeUpBungie thread:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105508546/0/0
For people wanting to link the thread:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105279649/0/0
Over 10,000 believe auto's need a buff, we aren't going anywhere Bungie, can't just hope it goes away!
[b][u]One in Eight Believe that the 1.1.1 patch placed Auto Rifles in the right spot! 13% WakeUpBungie![/u][/b]
[b][i][u]Special thanks to BrandenBjonzn for bumping this post constantly and keeping it alive.[/u][/i][/b]
[b][i][u]We've officially hit the 10k vote mark, and Bungie is yet to say a thing. Perhaps 20k will do it.[/u][/i][/b]
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If they knew how to do that, there wouldn't have been a need to neuter any weapons in PVE. That way they could neuter PVP load outs only. Huge blunder not totally separating PVP..with it's own classes, leveling, armor, and weapons. What a shame.
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1 ReplyHere ya go man, you guys inspired me to make a video specifically addressing why Bungie needs to stop tweaking the weapons!
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1 ReplyThey need to stop trying to make pve and pvp work the same. We know they can separate the two, seeing how shotguns got buffed in pve and not pvp. I understand the need to balance the Crucible, just don't agree with it hurting pve.
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1 ReplyIt would be nice to see an actual response from Bungie on their own website to the concerns raised in threads such as these. Been playing video games for more years than i care to remember, but Destiny is the very first i've ever played, where i come away from it feeling like a Beta Tester. The shear amount of Dev Dabbling since release boggles the mind.
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4 RepliesEdited by Sherpa: 3/2/2015 3:13:37 PMBuff EVERYTHING back to it's original state BEFORE NERFS in PvE only Leave everything the way it is in PvP
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1 ReplyScout Rifles FTW. -blam!- AR's, nerf those pussy weapons into the dirt.
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6 RepliesAnyone who crys for this or support this. Is a -blam!-ing noob that has no skills. Get good with other guns stop using the suros.
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2 RepliesPLEASE OH PLEASE
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8 RepliesEdited by PhNx Hellfire: 3/2/2015 4:23:14 AM[quote]http://youtu.be/GMQ_f4NoNVc[/quote] I'm just going to watch that again with the same look of skepticism on my face as when I saw some of those pictures... He complains about the menu drops... He complains about the vault space... He complains about the timeline of updates... He says assault rifles are "pellet shooting garbage" guns... OP. I've been around for... yikes, close to 20 years of gaming... I honestly have no clue why this is a problem only for the current generation of gamers but... that is 100% entitlement talking. I am a 100% anti-entitlement gamer. You should earn it by putting hours into a game, by any means necessary, to gain access to something. That's just it. ACCESS. There's no backing of neutrality in the video. There's no talk about how to improve ANYTHING... it's literally a kid, posting a video online, saying how much he dislikes the update. Tell me how that is constructive by ANY means? Bitching, whining, Wahbulance videos? That's your reason for posting this? [b]Let's get down to the 1.1.1 shall we?[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=12607]Link to 1.1.1 full patch notes.[/url] [u]Weapons[/u] [i]Auto Rifles[/i] -Reduced base damage of Auto Rifles by 2.5% -Reduced effective range values At current ranges? I can kill someone, with Suro's, from control point A to B on Rusted in PvP no different then before. A to C? Scout rifle territory. Pulse Rifles? B to C and B to A through side wall opening. In PvE? I am still getting 3 kills a clip minimum across all planets and their respective patrols/level 30 missions. The 2.5%? Was not high enough. [i]Pulse Rifles[/i] -Increased base damage of Pulse Rifles by 9.7% If you go into a crucible match and not see one now you are lucky. It's vastly easier to kill people at medium range. In PvE? Three Little Words is my primary pulse rifle at the moment and I won't be putting it in my vault anytime soon. I still have Bad Juju in there too. That will be going onto my warlock once he's done leveling his "Another Nitc" scout rifle. His perks will easily allow him to wreck any PvE environment with it. [i] Hand Cannons[/i] -Slightly reduced effective range -Slightly reduced initial accuracy Still 2 shooting people with Thorn. The Last Word accuracy is still too low for me to use in PvP. PvE? 29 Warlock. 30 Hunter. 31 Titan (only need radiant shards to get him to full 32). I put Thorn or The Last Word on any of them? I'll solo nightfalls with them and the appropriate special/heavy weapons for how nice they are in PvE. [i]Fusion Rifles[/i] -Widened blast pattern on a Fusion Rifle burst cone -Reduced starting ammunition in PVP I actually don't use this as often anymore in PvP, but when I do? High impact fusion rifles from the factions are not impacted by the widened blasting pattern. These need some more loving for the impact they bring. It's asking people to get wrecked in PvP if the cone isn't increased a little more. PvE? They are still the best reference weapons for dispatching loads of enemies (commonly thralls) then shotguns so... Lastly? [quote]Option 1: 3126 Option 2: 1000 Option 3: 713 Over 3,750 votes requesting a buff. Lets go Bungie![/quote] If the amount of voters, legitimately counted with no duplicates or anything else, was in the ten thousands I wouldn't be one to sign up for such a thing and you know why? Because 9.4 million people bought Destiny across four consoles. Good luck with a straw poll of less then 10k...
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Agreed
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4 RepliesThe AR nerf was kinda annoying at first. But barely noticeable after a couple of hours. It didn't ruin the game and plenty of people are still using them without issue in PVE. At worst the patch forces people to be more considerate about which tools they bring to finish the job.
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1 Reply#bringbackbeastlight (hard light)
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1 ReplyAny nerfs they do should always be PVP only... they should never touch PVE!!!!
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1 ReplyDid just shard all my ARs, they did stop working a while ago......
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2 RepliesARs are supposed to be close-mid range. The nerf was needed and well justified. Stop complaining that Bungie are tweaking their game to play it how they originally intended it to be played..
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1 ReplyBump, this needs to happen
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1 ReplyMeh bump
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1 ReplyGreat post OP completely agree 110%. I made a post regarding this issue before the patch even released detailing why this patch would be bad for the PVE community and why these changes were for the most part unnecessary and a overreaction for nerf calls from PVP crybabies with little thought for the larger part of the community. Please feel free to Link to it in Your post as the thread raises some valid points relevant to what You have said. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/99656519/0/0/1 Great work :)
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1 ReplyEdited by Lord Remoss: 3/2/2015 1:00:58 PMHere's an idea... You know how they buffed shotguns to do more damage to [u]non-guardians[/u]? Why not do the same for auto rifles? That way it's 'balanced' in PvP, but not rubbish in PvE.
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1 ReplyHow about we give the auto back the entire 4.5% it's been nerfed to date?
