I have two of them. Old and new one though I got the vendor versions so the perks aren't as good. Still it's an awesome auto rifle. The pre dlc version is the better one though with higher stability and a more precise sight. That's been my go to primary for crucible. The pre dlc one is good enough that I can hold my own against suros and vex users. I actually own a suros and prefer the v8 over it. Not sure how it will fare though after the upcoming nerf though.